Eigenfunction of the momentum "operator"

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The discussion revolves around identifying eigenfunctions of the momentum operator represented as -i ℏ (∂/∂x). Participants are examining specific functions and their properties in relation to this operator.

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  • The original poster attempts to determine which of the given functions is an eigenfunction of the momentum operator and expresses uncertainty about the requirements for eigenfunctions.
  • Some participants question the calculations and definitions related to eigenfunctions, emphasizing the relationship between operators and eigenvalues.
  • Others suggest exploring the implications of applying the momentum operator to the functions and whether the results yield scalar multiples of the original functions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications on the definition of eigenfunctions and the nature of operators. There is a focus on verifying calculations and understanding the conditions under which a function qualifies as an eigenfunction.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of eigenfunctions and operators, with some expressing confusion about the normalization of functions and the specific requirements for being an eigenfunction.

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which of the following functions is an eigenfunction of the momentum "operator"

[tex]-i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial x}:[/tex]

[tex]f_1 =cos(kx- \omega t)[/tex]
[tex]f_2 =e^{a^2x}[/tex]
[tex]f_3 =e^{-(\omega t+kx)}[/tex]

for this question, I'm not sure what they are looking for...

for f1
[tex]i \hbar k sin(k x -\omega t)[/tex]
for f2
[tex]-i \hbar a^2 e^{a^2x}[/tex]
for f3
[tex]- \hbar ke^{-(\omega t+kx)}[/tex]

the eigenvalues for f1 is -k^2
the eigenvalues for f2 is a^2
the eigenvalues for f3 is -ik

how do I find the correct eigenfunction?
 
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careful with your assertions, remember an eigen function says,
[tex]H \mid v \rangle = \lambda \mid v \rangle[/tex]
in other words when you act on a vector, you get the function back times the eigenvalue right...check your calculations...hope this helps, sincerely,x
 
Hi UrbanXrisis,

Typically you say that f is an eigenfunction of an operator like [tex]\mathcal{O} = - i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial x}[/tex] if [tex]\mathcal{O} f = \lambda f[/tex] where [tex]\lambda[/tex] is just some number called the eigenvalue. In other words, if when taking the derivative of f you get the same function back up to an overall constant, then f is an eigenfunction of the momentum operator. There are issues associated with the ability to normalize such functions, but I don't think that's the point of this problem.
 
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Do you know what it means for a function f to be an eigenfunction of an operator T?
 
ok, so taking [tex]f_2 =e^{a^2x}[/tex] as an example, the eigenfunction is [tex]e^{a^2x}[/tex] and the eigenvalue is [tex]a^2[/tex] because if I took the derivative of the function, it would keep get the eigenfunction multiplied by a^2 over and over again. what I don't understand is how to satisfy: [tex]-i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial x}[/tex]
 
No, first look up the definition of an eigenfunction. There's no "satisfying" -ih(d/dx). -ih(d/dx) is an operator, you can apply it to any function. Consider the function f(x) = x². There's no "satisfying" f. You can plug in any number for x, and you get another number x². It's the same idea with operators. You plug in your function f into your operator, and you get another function.

Plug the function f(x) = ea2x into -ih(d/dx), and you get:

-ih(d/dx)(exp(a²x)) = -iha²exp(a²x) which is just another function, agree? It's g(x) = -iha²exp(a²x). Now the question is, is g(x) a scalar multiple of f(x)? Yes it is. What is that multiple (it's not a²).

Try a new example, f(x) = cos(x). Plug it in:

-ih(d/dx)(cos(x)) = ihsin(x)

Again, this is just another function, g(x) = ihsin(x). Is this a scalar multiple of f(x)? That is, is there some complex constant z such that

g(x) = zf(x) ?
ihsin(x) = zcos(x) ?
sin(x) = (z/ih)cos(x) ?

No! Do you know why?
 
ok, so the eigenvalue is really -iha² for ea2x?

as for cos(x) the function changes to sin so it can't be an eigenfunction for -ih(d/dx)?
 

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