Eigenvalues of transpose linear transformation

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The discussion revolves around the eigenvalues of the transpose linear transformation defined by ##T(A) = A^{t}## for an ##n \times n## matrix ##A##. Participants are tasked with showing that the eigenvalues are ##\lambda = \pm 1##.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of assuming a matrix ##M## is an eigenvector of ##T##, leading to the equation ##M^t = \lambda M##. There are questions about the validity of the original statement and the conditions under which it holds. Some participants suggest examining specific cases, such as symmetric and anti-symmetric matrices, while others express confusion about the role of determinants in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the assumptions of the problem and exploring various interpretations. Some have suggested looking at the operator ##T^2## for further insights. There is a recognition that the determinant approach may not be suitable, prompting further exploration of the properties of the transformation ##T##.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for misunderstanding the problem statement and the importance of clarifying the definitions involved. There is also mention of the problem being sourced from a standard textbook, which adds to the discussion's context.

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Homework Statement


If ##A## is an ##n \times n## matrix, show that the eigenvalues of ##T(A) = A^{t}## are ##\lambda = \pm 1##

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First I assume that a matrix ##M## is an eigenvector of ##T##. So ##T(M) = \lambda M## for some ##\lambda \in \mathbb{R}##. This means that ##M^t = \lambda M##. Then ##\det (M^t) = \det (M)##. So ##\det(M) = \lambda^n \det (M)##. But I can't seem to cancel the determinants since we don't know if ##M## is invertible or not. This is where I get stuck.
 
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The statement is plain wrong: choose ##A=0## or any diagonal matrix ##diag(\lambda_1,\ldots ,\lambda_n)## with ##\lambda_i## of your choice. And these are only the simple counterexamples. Could it be, that ##A\cdot A^t=1## is the given condition?
 
fresh_42 said:
The statement is plain wrong: choose ##A=0## or any diagonal matrix ##diag(\lambda_1,\ldots ,\lambda_n)## with ##\lambda_i## of your choice. And these are only the simple counterexamples. Could it be, that ##A\cdot A^t=1## is the given condition?
But if ##M^t = \lambda M##, and if ##\lambda = \pm 1##, wouldn't the symmetric and anti-symmetric matrices work?
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
But if ##M^t = \lambda M##, and if ##\lambda = \pm 1##, wouldn't the symmetric and anti-symmetric matrices work?
What does this mean for a vector? A column vector is a multiple of a row vector? This would only mean ##n=1## and ##\lambda (M-1)=0##, i.e. ##\lambda = 0## or ##M=1##. Since the claim is obviously wrong, why bother an attempt to prove it? It cannot be proven. Perhaps I didn't understand your ##T##. To me it looked like ##T : A \longmapsto A^t##.
 
I'll write out the problems exactly as it is written: Let ##T## be a linear operator on ##M_{n \times n} (\mathbb{R})## defined by ##T(A) = A^t##. Show that ##\pm 1## are the only eigenvalues of 1.

The problem is from a standard textbook (Friedberg), so I don't think there's anything wrong with the problem
 
O.k., I thought it is about the eigenvalues of ##A##. My fault, sorry. Then you might look at ##T^2## for the solution.
 
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fresh_42 said:
O.k., I thought it is about the eigenvalues of ##A##. My fault, sorry. Then you might look at ##T^2## for the solution.
That ends up working well. Why doesn't the determinant approach work well? I want to know so that next time I come across a similar problem I won't spend time going own that path
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Why doesn't the determinant approach work well?
I think I know it now. It's the same thing as my error arose from. ##M## is a vector, and its determinant isn't important. We should only look at the determinant of ##T##, which is clearly a regular mapping with ##\det(T)^2 = 1##. The equation you found isn't wrong, but as you stated correctly, we don't know anything about ##M##, only that ##M \neq 0## which isn't enough, if we pass to the determinant of ##M##. I mean this reduces all ##n^2## information about ##M## to a single number, and more, it distracts from the properties of ##T##.
 

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