Einstein's photoelectric equation

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The discussion revolves around Einstein's photoelectric equation, specifically focusing on determining Planck's constant and the work function from a graph, as well as calculating frequencies corresponding to cut-off wavelengths for specific filters. The subject area includes concepts from quantum mechanics and wave-particle duality.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between stopping potential and frequency, exploring how to derive Planck's constant and work function from a linear graph. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the graph and the equations involved, particularly in calculating frequencies from given wavelengths.

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Some participants have offered insights into the relationships depicted in the graph and the equations that govern them. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply these equations to find numerical values, with various interpretations and clarifications being shared.

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Participants note the need for specific equations and the implications of constants such as the speed of light in their calculations. There is mention of a table providing minimum wavelengths, which is essential for the frequency calculations.

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Homework Statement



1. How can Planck's constant and the work function be determined from the following graph?

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9076/untitledgo5.jpg

2. Calculate the frequencies corresponding to the cut-off wavelengths for filters 15 and 29 in table 1. Take speed of light as 3*10^8 m/s.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2240/untitled2jh5.jpg

The Attempt at a Solution



I know the following equations, but can't seem to piece it all together

KE = hf - W

KE = eVs (where Vs is called the stopping potential, the potential for which the photocurrent reaches a value equal to zero)

and Vs = (h/e)f - (W/e)
 
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A hint: the equation of a line which intersects the x-axis at A and has slope m is

y = m*(x-A)

(Think about why... the case y=0 )
 
1. You can see from your final equation that the gradient of the graph will be h/e and the y-intercept of the graph (which is not shown in the picture) will be (- W/e). Your final equation is a linear function of the frequency of the incident light.

2. The filters transmits colours with longer wavelengths up to the minimum wavelengths stated. Just calculate the frequencies (cut-off ...) for these minimum wavelengths from

c = \lambda f

This means that these filters will transmit light of lower frequencies up to these calculated ones. Since c is constant in the equation above one need to choose a larger f with a smaller \lambda to obtain the same product. That is a short wavelength causes the peaks to pass a point quicker (larger frequency) than a longer wavelength when they both move at the same speed.
 
In regards to q1, gradient will be h/e. Therefore h = gradient*e and work function = y-intercept*-e?

Sorry, I'm slightly confused.
 
Correct. The first graph plots the stopping potential for the emitted electrons as a function of the frequency of the incident photons on the material. It therefore displays the relationship between Vs and f. That is exactly what your final equation gives - the relationship between Vs and f. Both h/e and W/e are constants in this equation. So this is a linear relationship between Vs and f.
 
Gotcha, now in regards to q2.
I get the explanation behind c = lambda*f (i.e. as wavelenth gets smaller, frequency gets larger and vice versa), but how do I actually find the numerical values of the frequencies?
 
The minimum wavelengths are given in the table so you just calculate the maximum frequencies with

c = \lambda f
 
You forgot some equations.

c = \lambda f

E = h f

Where h -> Plank's Cosnt, f -> frequency, and c -> speed of light, E -> energy, lambda -> wavelength
 

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