Elastic Collision Between Two Balls

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision scenario involving two balls, where one ball (A) is moving and collides head-on with a stationary ball (B). The problem specifically asks for the velocity of ball B immediately after the impact, given that the mass of ball A is much greater than that of ball B.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the correct answer and the implications of mass differences in elastic collisions. There are discussions about the reasoning behind choosing certain velocities and the role of conservation of momentum and energy. Some participants question the wording of the problem and its implications for the answers provided.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions, and exploring different interpretations of the collision dynamics. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for calculations and the importance of understanding the principles of momentum and energy conservation in elastic collisions.

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There is a noted lack of specificity regarding the initial velocity of ball A, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. Additionally, the phrasing of the question has led to varied interpretations about the timing of the velocities being discussed.

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Homework Statement
Ball A travelling with velocity, , collides head-on with stationary ball B in an elastic collision. If the mass of ball A is much greater than the mass of ball B, what is the velocity of ball B immediately after impact?
0 (It remains stationary.)
v (the initial velocity of ball A)
2 v (twice the initial velocity of ball A)
0.5 v (half the initial velocity of ball A)
Relevant Equations
N/A
I'm a little confused as to what the answer could be. This was one of my homework questions that I got wrong as I chose 0.5 v as the answer. Would someone be able to tell me what the correct answer would be?
 
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susan_khan said:
Homework Statement:: Ball A travelling with velocity, , collides head-on with stationary ball B in an elastic collision. If the mass of ball A is much greater than the mass of ball B, what is the velocity of ball B immediately after impact?
0 (It remains stationary.)
v (the initial velocity of ball A)
2 v (twice the initial velocity of ball A)
0.5 v (half the initial velocity of ball A)
Relevant Equations:: N/A

I'm a little confused as to what the answer could be. This was one of my homework questions that I got wrong as I chose 0.5 v as the answer. Would someone be able to tell me what the correct answer would be?
The velocity of the traveling ball is not specified in your post.
Also, to receive help youhave to post your attempt at a solution. What was your reasoning for choosing your answer?
 
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kuruman said:
The velocity of the traveling ball is not specified in your post.
Also, to receive help youhave to post your attempt at a solution. What was your reasoning for choosing your answer?
Yes the velocity was not specified in the question, it was more so a scenario to think about. The reason I chose 0.5 as my answer is because I thought that the velocity of the small mass Ball B would change more; in the sense that the smaller mass would lose some energy to the bigger mass. However,now that I think back, won't ball b equal the same velocity as ball a. Because every action has an equal an opposite reaction?
 
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susan_khan said:
Yes the velocity was not specified in the question, it was more so a scenario to think about. The reason I chose 0.5 as my answer is because I thought that the velocity of the small mass Ball B would change more; in the sense that the smaller mass would lose some energy to the bigger mass. However,now that I think back, won't ball b equal the same velocity as ball a. Because every action has an equal an opposite reaction?
You seem to be guessing wildly. Why do you think Newton’s third law implies what you just said? You should be thinking in terms of conservation of energy and momentum.

What is the energy and momentum before and after the collision?
 
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susan_khan said:
Yes the velocity was not specified in the question, it was more so a scenario to think about. The reason I chose 0.5 as my answer is because I thought that the velocity of the small mass Ball B would change more; in the sense that the smaller mass would lose some energy to the bigger mass. However,now that I think back, won't ball b equal the same velocity as ball a. Because every action has an equal an opposite reaction?
Logic may only get you so far. Sometimes you have to do some calculations.
 
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PeroK said:
Sometimes you have to do some calculations.
… but logical ones.

The question wording is weird. If A is much more massive than B then none of the answers is correct. Why not just ask whether it is 0, between 0 and v, v or >v?
Whoops... except that the correct answer is just a good approximation.
 
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haruspex said:
… but logical ones.

The question wording is weird. If A is much more massive than B then none of the answers is correct.
Yes, there is a correct answer.
 
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Orodruin said:
Yes, there is a correct answer.
I agree.
 
For a perfectly elastic collision, what is the meaning of "immediately after impact"?
After contact?
During contact?
After separation?

The velocity of ball B increases during that short period of time from zero to a final value.
 
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Lnewqban said:
For a perfectly elastic collision, what is the meaning of "immediately after impact"?
After contact?
During contact?
After separation?

The velocity of ball B increases during that short period of time from zero to a final value.
I think of it as "after the masses are done exchanging momentum and energy" otherwise the question cannot be answered.
 
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