Elastic Collision of two wood blocks

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision between two wooden blocks on a frictionless track, where one block is released from a height and interacts with another block at rest via magnetic repulsion. The original poster seeks clarification on energy conservation in this scenario.

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  • The original poster questions whether energy conservation applies in this case, suggesting the block should rise back to its original height. Other participants discuss the implications of differing masses on energy distribution and momentum conservation, proposing the need for simultaneous equations to find the speeds after the collision.

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Participants are exploring different aspects of the problem, including the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy in elastic collisions. Some have suggested using the center-of-mass reference frame for simplification, while others are still grappling with the calculations involved.

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There is an emphasis on the conditions of the collision being elastic and frictionless, and the participants are considering the implications of the blocks having different masses on the outcome of the collision.

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Two blocks are free to slide along a frictionless wooden track ABC as shown in Figure P9.20. The block of mass m1 = 5.07 kg is released from A. Protruding from its front end is the north pole of a strong magnet, repelling the north pole of an identical magnet embedded in the back end of the block of mass m2 = 11.0 kg, initially at rest. The two blocks never touch. Calculate the maximum height to which m1 rises after the elastic collision.


I put the figure attached. I just want to know if I am missing something here. there's no friction, and its an elastic collision. Isn't energy conserved and the block will just rise back to 5m?
 

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That would happen only if the two blocks had the same mass. Since they don't the first block will not come to rest after the collision, but rebound backwards. The energy will now be split (not evenly) between the two masses.
What you got to do is set up two equations, one using the conservation of momentum, and one for conservation of kinetic energy (which only happens in perfectly elastic collisions). There are two unknown variables, the speeds of 1 and 2 after the collision.

Simultaneous equations will take you to a quadratic solution. That means there will be two sets of answers. One of these will be the speeds before the collision, the other set will be the correct answer.
 
The relative velocity after an elastic collision is the opposite (negative) of
the relative velocity before the collision. This, and momentum equation,
are not as tough to solve as momentum and KE.

In the center-of-mass reference frame, the initial velocities (inward)
both become opposite directions during an elastic collision. This is easy.
 
OK, so that way is easier, but...

OK it's a lot easier.
 
ok i have the same problem and can't arrive at a solution can someone help out


thanks
 

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