Elastic collisions formula help

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the final velocities in elastic collisions, specifically the formulas V_B = (2 m_A V_o_A)/(m_A + m_B) and V_A = ((M_A - M_B)V_o_A)/(M_A + M_B). These equations result from simultaneously solving the conservation of momentum and conservation of kinetic energy equations. The participants clarify that only kinetic energy is considered, as potential energy does not factor into this scenario. The discussion emphasizes the algebraic manipulation required to isolate the velocities based on the masses and initial velocities of the colliding bodies.

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Homework Statement



After some messey algebra it can be said that

V_B = (2 m_A V_o_A)/(m_A + m_B)

V_A = ( (M_A - M_B ) V_o_A )/(M_A + M_B)

were did this come from?

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I don't even know were to start
 
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were _B indicates a quantity realtive to B
and _A indicates a quantity realitve to A

and V_o is the intial velocity
 


That's for elastic collisions. It comes from solving the conservation of momentum and conservation of energy equations simultaneously.
 


ummm... hmm

ok... um so there is just kinetic energy? no potential and you had to solve for the velocities becasue these are the only terms the same in momentum and kinetic energy so... let's see.. um..
 


ok then

m_A V_o_A + m_B V_o_B = m_A V_A + m_B V_B

.5 m_A V_o_A^2 + .5 m_B V_o_B^2 = .5 m_A V_A^2 + .5 m_B V_B^2
 
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Yes. Now bring the terms that start with "m_A" to the left in both equations, bring the terms that start with "m_B" to the right in both equations, and see what you get.
 


oh ok hold up
 


m_A V_o_A + m_B V_o_B = m_A V_A + m_B V_B
m_A V_o_A - m_A V_A = m_B V_B - m_B V_o_B
m_A(V_o_A - V_A) = m_B (V_B - V_o_B )


.5 m_A V_o_A^2 + .5 m_B V_o_B^2 = .5 m_A V_A^2 + .5 m_B V_B^2
.5 m_A V_o_A^2 - .5 m_A V_A^2 = .5 m_B V_B^2 - .5 m_B V_o_B^2
.5 m_A (V_o_A^2 - V_A^2) = .5 m_B (V_B^2 - V_o_B^2)
 


i'm not really sure were this problem is going
 

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