Electric Charge Problem: Determining Resultant Electrostatic Force"

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The discussion revolves around determining the horizontal and vertical components of the resultant electrostatic force on a charge located at the lower left corner of a square. The problem involves electrostatics, specifically the calculation of forces between point charges.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for the horizontal (Fh) and vertical (Fv) components of the electrostatic force, with some questioning the accuracy of the original poster's values and equations.
  • There are suggestions to clarify the general formula for electrostatic force and to show more detailed work in the calculations.
  • Some participants raise concerns about the distance used in calculations, particularly regarding the diagonal of the square.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's calculations and suggestions. There is a recognition of potential errors in the original calculations, and some have reported correcting their answers based on feedback. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the correct measurements and the impact of the diagonal distance on the calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for resolving the problem. The original poster expresses confusion over discrepancies between their results and those presented on a student companion website.

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I got this problem wrong in my text's student companion website, but I don't understand why. Could someone let me know what went wrong?

Homework Statement



What are the horizontal and the vertical components of the resultant electrostatic force on the charge in the lower left corner of the square if q = 0.10 micro Coulombs (Or uC as I cannot remember how to type the Greek letter equivalent.) and a = 5.0cm?

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Homework Equations



Fh = F-q + F-2q(cos(45))

Fv = -F+q + F-q(sin(45))

The Attempt at a Solution



I get .17E-6 N for Fh and -2.1E-7 N for Fv. I think I may have mixed up some decimal places on Fh, but the solution presented is .17 N for Fh and -0.046 for Fv. I just don't understand what I did wrong though.
 
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for Fh: your first term should be [tex]F_{-2q}[/tex], and your second term should be [tex]F_{-q}\cos(45^o)[/tex]

for both: Please show more work. What is the general formula for the electrostatic force? What values did you use for each variable in the equation?
 
My apologies. I'll try out your suggestion for Fh. Otherwise...

Fh = ((8.99E9)(2E-7)(1E-7)/.05^2) + (((8.99E9)(2E-7)^2)/.05^2)cos(45)

Fv = -((8.99E9)(2E-6)(1E-6)/.05^2) + ((8.99E9)(2E-6)(1E-6)/.05^2)sin(45)
 
For Fv: as in Fh, the charges should be multiplied by 10-7
 
After your suggestions I get .19E-8 for FH and -.02E-8. Why do my answers still differ from what the website presents? I don't get it.
 
frankfjf said:
My apologies. I'll try out your suggestion for Fh. Otherwise...

Fh = ((8.99E9)(2E-7)(1E-7)/.05^2) + (((8.99E9)(2E-7)^2)/.05^2)cos(45)

Fv = -((8.99E9)(2E-6)(1E-6)/.05^2) + ((8.99E9)(2E-6)(1E-6)/.05^2)sin(45)

for the charge on the far corner: the distance is not 0.05m. It is along the diagonal of the square, not along one of the sides.
I'm checking now to see if that clears things up...

edit: I got the correct answer for both Fh and Fv when I took both of my suggestions (and the rest of your work :wink:).
 
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So for the charge in the far corner, it's not 0.05m? If not then how can I get the right measurement? The diagram doesn't give any indication of what the diagonal is. Or do you mean just the two suggestions you gave and the diagonal is a red herring so to speak?
 
Cheese, frank, I wouldn't trick you like that!

You don't know the formula for the diagonal of a square? It's the same as the hypotenuse of a 45-45-90 triangle.
 
Ah okay, that helped. Thanks!
 

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