Electric field and electric forces

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving electric fields and forces, specifically focusing on the motion of charged particles (an electron and a proton) in a uniform electric field between parallel plates.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the electric field using kinematic equations and Newton's second law, expressing concern over potential errors in their calculations or assumptions. They question whether their approach is valid and seek clarification on the expected format of the answer.

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Some participants provide feedback on the original poster's calculations, suggesting possible reasons for discrepancies in their results, such as calculation errors or unit conversion issues. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's approach, and the discussion remains open-ended.

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The problem involves specific values for the initial speed of the particles and the dimensions of the plates, which are critical for calculations but not fully detailed in the discussion. The original poster's attempts are constrained by the need to adhere to homework guidelines and the expectations of the online platform.

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Homework Statement


An electron is projected with an initial speed v0 = 2.00×10^6 m/s into the uniform field between the parallel plates, as shown in figure. Assume that the field between the plates is uniform and directed vertically downward, and that the field outside the plates is zero. The electron enters the field at a point midway between the plates.

<img src=http://session.masteringphysics.com/problemAsset/1053977/4/YF-21-033.jpg>


Homework Equations



a). If the electron just misses the upper plate as it emerges from the field, find the magnitude of the electric field.

b)Suppose that in the figure the electron is replaced by a proton with the same initial speed v0. Would the proton hit one of the plates?

c)If the proton would not hit one of the plates, what would be the magnitude of its vertical displacement as it exits the region between the plates?



The Attempt at a Solution



Part a)
ok so i found the acceleration by using basic mechanics

x=v0 *t
then, y=(1/2)*a*t^2
where t=x/v0, so
y= (1/2)*a*(x/v0)^2
then solved for a:

a=(2*y*v0^2)/x^2

where y=.5 cm
x=2 cm, and v0=2.0*10^6 m/s



since F=ma and F=Eq solved for E
E=ma/q
Then plugged in a
E=(m/q)((2*y*v0^2)/x^2)
The mass and the charge of the electron is known:
Mass of e=9.019*10^-31
Charge of e=1.602*10^-19

I keep getting the same answer when i plug numbers back into the equation and the computer is telling me that is wrong. I don't know if there's anything wrong with my calculations or the equation. Please let me know if I'm on the right track.

Part b)
no it will not (correct answer). Same force with more mass, the proton will go past.

Part c)

F=qE

a=F/m(mass of a proton) where acceleration we already know from part a.
So,

(2*y*v0^2)/(2 cm)^2 = F/m

then solved for y, and I still can't get the answer. Anyone sees a mistake? Please let me know.

Thank you so much.
 
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Your expression for the electric field is correct. If the computer is telling you that the answer is wrong, the reason could be one of the following
1. You keep making the same calculational mistake when you are substituting the numbers or you are making a unit conversion error. Without knowing what answer you got, we cannot tell if this is the case.
2. The magnitude of the electric field is what you have, but the computer is expecting a negative sign in front of it. Without a figure, we cannot tell if this is the case.

For future reference, we cannot tell where you wnet wrong if you don't tell us what you got in more detail.
 
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