Electric Field and Force between two plates [general question]

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The discussion clarifies the calculation of electric fields and forces between two charged plates, specifically addressing scenarios where one plate is earthed. It establishes that the potential difference (PD) is the critical factor, with examples showing that a +6V and -6V configuration yields the same results as a +12V and earthed configuration. The formula for force on a charge, F = eV/d, utilizes the potential difference, confirming that a PD of 6V is appropriate for calculations. The distinction between potential and potential difference is emphasized, particularly in relation to grounding.

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Greetings, I am just confused in something , Is there a difference when calculating the electric field , or a force exerted on a charge between two plates , if the two plates were :
a) both plates are charged ( connected to a power source) ,
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b) both plates are charged ( connected to a power source), but the negative plate is earthed , i.e 0 V at the negative plate .
 
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It only depends upon the Potential Difference (as long as there is no other structure nearby). SO connecting between +6V and -6V will give the same result as +12V and earth.
 
sophiecentaur said:
It only depends upon the Potential Difference (as long as there is no other structure nearby). SO connecting between +6V and -6V will give the same result as +12V and earth.
i mean let's suppose the voltage is 6V at the + plate , but the negative plate is 0v because its earthed
 
Samurai44 said:
i mean let's suppose the voltage is 6V at the + plate , but the negative plate is 0v because its earthed
In that case the potential difference will be 6 volts.
 
Doc Al said:
In that case the potential difference will be 6 volts.

so when finding a force on a charge(e .g an electron) between the plates , for example at the mid , using this formula "F=e V/d" ,, do we use the value of V as 6 ?
 
Samurai44 said:
so when finding a force on a charge(e .g an electron) between the plates , for example at the mid , using this formula "F=e V/d" ,, do we use the value of V as 6 ?
Field is Volts per Metre. If you have 6V PD between the plates then it's 6V for the formula.
I am just wondering if you could be worrying about the distinction between Potential and Potential Difference. When dealing with situations on Earth then you take Earth Potential as Zero and 'Potential' is relative to Earth. If the minus terminal of the supply is connected to Earth , the 'Potential' of the + terminal is 6V - and vice versa, when connecting the other way round.
 

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