Electric Field and the Speed of a Proton

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The discussion centers on calculating the speed of a proton moving in a circular orbit just outside a nonconducting spherical shell with a charge density of -2.26 µC/m³. The initial incorrect assumption was that the charge of the proton (q₀) equaled the total charge inside the spherical shell, leading to an unrealistic speed calculation of 10¹² m/s. Upon correcting this assumption, the speed was recalculated to be on the order of 10⁵ m/s, which is a realistic value. This highlights the importance of accurately defining charge variables in electrostatic problems.

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Homework Statement


A particle with a charge of -60.0 nC is placed at the center of a nonconducting spherical shell of inner radius 20.0 cm and outer radius 34.0 cm. The spherical shell carries charge with a uniform density of -2.26 µC/m3. A proton moves in a circular orbit just outside the spherical shell. Calculate the speed of the proton.

Homework Equations


We will need:
E = F/q_{o}
\Phi=EA=q_{inside}/\epsilon_{o} (no integral is needed because we know the electric field will be constant at the surface of the sphere and we know the surface area of a sphere).
F = ma_{c}

The Attempt at a Solution



Solving for E I get:

E = q_{inside}/(\epsilon_{o}A)

q_{o} is just the inner charge (-60.0nC) + the outer charge [4/3*pi*charge density*(0.34^3-0.20^3).

Plugging in for E I get:

F/q_{o}=q_{inside}/(\epsilon_{o}A)

q_{o} = q_{inside} because the spherical surface should act as a point charge right?

Therefore after some algebra and substitution for the centripetal acceleration I get:

v = \sqrt{q^{2}/(4\pi\epsilon_{0}rm})
Where r = .34 and m is the mass of a proton.

When I plug in all the values I get a speed on the order of 10^{12}m/s
Which is faster than the speed of light if I am not mistaking...that being roughly 3 x 10^{8}m/s

What am I doing wrong?
 
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Ithryndil said:

Homework Statement

F/q_{o}=q_{inside}/(\epsilon_{o}A)

q_{o} = q_{inside} because the spherical surface should act as a point charge right?

My problem lies with the above. q_{o} = q_{inside}. That is a false statement. The q_{o} is actually the charge of the proton, not the charge of the entire charge configuration. With that adjustment I get an answer on the order of 10^5 which is must more realistic and was the correct answer.
 
Yup that's right. Good that you figured it out by yourself.
 

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