Electric field at the centre of a ball

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field at the center of a ball with a volume charge density that varies with the radius. The original poster describes their attempts to solve the problem using different methods, leading to inconsistent results.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster has attempted to apply the formula for electric fields due to continuous volume charge density but is encountering discrepancies in their results. They question the validity of their approaches and seek clarification on their reasoning.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of varying unit vectors in spherical coordinates and suggest converting to Cartesian coordinates to simplify the integration process.
  • Others propose using Maxwell's equations or Laplace's equation as alternative methods to approach the problem.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring various methods and questioning the assumptions made in the original poster's approach. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of different coordinate systems and equations, but no consensus has been reached on a single method to solve the problem.

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Participants are grappling with the complexity of integrating in spherical coordinates due to the variability of unit vectors and are considering the implications of using different mathematical approaches. The original poster's problem is framed within the context of homework constraints, which may limit the methods they can employ.

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Question : Find the electric field at the centre of a ball of radius R with volume charge density rho = a.r, where a is a constant vector and r is a radius vector drawn from ball's centre.

Relevant Equations and attempt at solution : I used the basic formula for electric field due to continuous volume charge density and arrived at an equation which I tried to solve two different ways as shown in image. I am getting different solutions by trying different methods which is not possible.
I have tried to think of a reason for this and my reasoning for this anomaly has been shown in the image.
Please help me in figuring out where my approach went wrong.
 

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When theta varies, ##\hat r## varies, no?
 
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haruspex said:
When theta varies, ##\hat r## varies, no?

Oho.. And since r hat is varying I can't take it as a constant under integration.. That's why we convert the spherical system to cartesian one.. Where the unit vectors are independent of the angles.. And that was the point of this exercise.. To teach us to consider the constancy of unit vectors when doing problems...

Is there any other way this could be done without resorting to cartesian coordinate system (or, for that matter, any system where the unit vectors are independent of angles)..such that I integrate using r hat itself..??
 
did you try the Maxwell equation in differential form?
div E=rho/e
you used intergral form.
Or use Laplace equation to find voltage then use E=-gradV
 
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Hamal_Arietis said:
did you try the Maxwell equation in differential form?
div E=rho/e
you used intergral form.
Or use Laplace equation to find voltage then use E=-gradV
Yeah... Actually I wanted to figure it out this way
 

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