Electric Field Due to Dipole Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field due to an electric dipole, specifically expressing its magnitude as a function of the perpendicular distance from the dipole axis. Participants are using variables such as k, q, x, and d in their attempts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the cancellation of x components of electric fields and focus on the y-components. There are attempts to derive expressions involving trigonometric relationships and the distance from the dipole. Some participants question the correctness of the derived expressions and the assumptions made regarding the geometry of the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's attempts, noting errors and suggesting corrections. There is a recognition of algebraic complexity, and while some expressions seem acceptable to certain participants, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a potential issue with an online homework system (Webassign) not accepting a derived answer, indicating possible constraints or discrepancies in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



Consider the following figure.

dipole.jpg


For the electric dipole shown in the figure, express the magnitude of the resulting electric field as a function of the perpendicular distance x from the center of the dipole axis. (Use the following as necessary: k, q for the charges, x, and d.)

Homework Equations



Et= E1 + E2

E = k|q|/r2

The Attempt at a Solution



The x component of the electric fields will cancel out, leaving only the y-components. Adding the two vector fields in the y-direction:

[k|q|/r2]sinθ + [k|q|/r2]sinθ = 2[k|q|/r2]sinθ

r^2 = [d/2 + x^2]1/2

My final answer:

2[kq/[d2/4 + x2]1/2]sinθ

This is not correct.
 
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Renaldo said:

Homework Statement



Consider the following figure.

dipole.jpg


For the electric dipole shown in the figure, express the magnitude of the resulting electric field as a function of the perpendicular distance x from the center of the dipole axis. (Use the following as necessary: k, q for the charges, x, and d.)

Homework Equations



Et= E1 + E2

E = k|q|/r2



The Attempt at a Solution



The x component of the electric fields will cancel out, leaving only the y-components. Adding the two vector fields in the y-direction:

[k|q|/r2]sinθ + [k|q|/r2]sinθ = 2[k|q|/r2]sinθ

r^2 = [d/2 + x^2]1/2

My final answer:

2[kq/[d2/4 + x2]1/2]sinθ

This is not correct.

For one thing r^2=x^2+(d/2)^2. You've got an extra square root. For another, you should be able to express sinθ in terms of x and d as well.
 
Dick said:
For one thing r^2=x^2+(d/2)^2. You've got an extra square root. For another, you should be able to express sinθ in terms of x and d as well.

Yes, I noticed that extra square root. When I fix things up, and set sinθ equal to d/2r:

It's a lot of algebra, but it comes out to kqd/[(d2/4)+x2)]3/2. Does that look right?
 
Renaldo said:
Yes, I noticed that extra square root. When I fix things up, and set sinθ equal to d/2r:

It's a lot of algebra, but it comes out to kqd/[(d2/4)+x2)]3/2. Does that look right?

Looks ok to me.
 
Dick said:
Looks ok to me.

All right. Thanks. Webassign doesn't like the answer but I feel confident in the math. Could be a problem with Webassign.
 

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