Electric Field due to line charge

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The problem involves calculating the electric field due to a non-conducting rod with a uniform linear charge density, positioned at an angle in the x-y plane. The task is to determine the values of variables a and b based on the angle θ formed with the negative x-axis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss their attempts to derive the electric field components, with some integrating over the line charge. There are questions about the expressions used for the field components and the correctness of the results obtained.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the electric field components are being explored, with participants questioning the assumptions and calculations made. Some participants express uncertainty about the values of a and b, and the need for additional equations to determine these variables is noted.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the problem is an integer type question, indicating that a and b must be determined through trial and error. There is also a lack of access to answer keys, which adds to the uncertainty in confirming results.

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Homework Statement


A non-conducting rod AB, having uniformly distributed positive charge of linear charge density λ is kept in x-y plane. The rod AB is inclined at an angle 30° with +ve Y-axis. The magnitude of electrostatic field at origin due to rod AB is E_0 N/C and its direction is along line OC. If line OC makes an angle θ=10a+b degree with negative x-axis as shown in the figure, calculate the value of (a+b) [OA=2m and λ=10^3 C/m]

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The Attempt at a Solution



E_x = \dfrac{\lambda}{4 \pi \epsilon _0 d} (\sin 60 + \sin 30) \\<br /> E_y = \dfrac{\lambda}{4 \pi \epsilon _0 d} |\cos 30 - \cos 60| \\<br /> <br /> \tan \alpha = \dfrac{E_y}{E_x} \\<br /> =\dfrac{ |\cos 30 - \cos 60| }{(\sin 60 + \sin 30)}

which comes out to be 15°.

Thus, θ = 30° - 15° = 15°. So, a+b = 6. But it's not the correct answer :(
 

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I had a different result for ##E_y## but the same result for ##E_x##. How did you arrive at your expressions of the field components? I integrated over the line.
 
guitarphysics said:
I had a different result for ##E_y## but the same result for ##E_x##. How did you arrive at your expressions of the field components? I integrated over the line.

I did the integration again and got the expression for E_y as
\dfrac{\lambda}{16 \pi \epsilon _0 d} (\cos 60^0 - \cos 120^0)

Do you get the same result?
 
utkarshakash said:
A non-conducting rod AB, having uniformly distributed positive charge of linear charge density λ is kept in x-y plane. The rod AB is inclined at an angle 30° with +ve Y-axis. The magnitude of electrostatic field at origin due to rod AB is E_0 N/C and its direction is along line OC. If line OC makes an angle θ=10a+b degree with negative x-axis as shown in the figure, calculate the value of (a+b) [OA=2m and λ=10^3 C/m]

Hi utkarshakash

1. Is θ=10a+b degree given and value of a+b is to be determined ?
2. What are a and b ?
3. What is the answer according to the key ?

Thanks
 
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Vibhor said:
Hi utkarshakash

1. Is θ=10a+b degree given and value of a+b is to be determined ?
2. What are a and b ?
3. What is the answer according to the key ?

Thanks

1. Yes
2. a and b are variables which need to be determined.
3. I don't remember. I posted this a long time ago. I don't have the answer keys right now.
 
utkarshakash said:
1. Yes
2. a and b are variables which need to be determined.
3. I don't remember. I posted this a long time ago. I don't have the answer keys right now.

Thank you :)

But I wonder how is this possible . Value of θ can be determined which gives value of (10a+b) ,but then we need another equation in a and b to determine value of (a+b)

Any thoughts ?
 
Vibhor said:
Thank you :)

But I wonder how is this possible . Value of θ can be determined which gives value of (10a+b) ,but then we need another equation in a and b to determine value of (a+b)

Any thoughts ?

This is an integer type question. This means you'll have to get a and b by trial and error and I don't think it'd be difficult to do so.
 
Fine . So a and b are integers . This is what I wanted to know .

Thanks a lot :)
 

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