Electric Field from its Potential of a Half Circle along its Z axis

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The discussion focuses on deriving the electric field from the potential of a half-circle charge distribution along the z-axis. The potential is expressed as V = (1/(4*Pi*Epsilon_0))*[λ {pi*a}/sqrt(z^2+a^2)], where λ is the linear charge density and a = sqrt(x^2+y^2). The challenge lies in calculating the electric field, particularly addressing the symmetry that eliminates the y-component. The solution involves differentiating the potential correctly and using distinct variables for the semicircle coordinates and the point in space.

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Homework Statement
Find the Electric Potential Energy of half a circle charged with a Linear Charge Density: "Lambda" along its z axis. After that, find the Electric Field "E" deriving its potential energy.
Relevant Equations
Potential Energy dV = (1/(4*Pi*Epsilon_0))*(dQ/|r-r'|)
Electric Field E = - ∇ V
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So I figured out the potential is: dV = (1/(4*Pi*Epsilon_0))*[λ dl/sqrt(z^2+a^2)]
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From that expression: We can figure out that since its half a ring we have to integrate from 0 to pi*a, so we would get:

V = (1/(4*Pi*Epsilon_0))*[λ {pi*a]/sqrt(z^2+a^2)]

In that expression: a = sqrt(x^2+y^2)

What I am having trouble is getting the electric field from this expression. When I do ∇ V, I am getting three components for my electric field in the (x,y,z), directions. But when I analyze the problem. It is clear to me that there is not a "y" component, as there is simetry along this axis. What shall I do?

The answer I am getting at the moment is this ("L" in this case is: (1/(4*Pi*Epsilon_0))*[λ {pi}]):

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It looks like you are using x and y for different things. There is the equation of the semicircle: x2 + y2 = a2. Then there are the coordinates of a point in space (x, y, z), for which you want to find the potential and its derivative. But you can't use the same x and y for both, and try to differentiate by them. You have to label them differently. For example, you could calculate the potential by
V = ∫λadΦ/(4πε0R) where R2 = (x-acosφ)2 + (y-asinφ)2 + z2
Differentiate, and take x = y = 0 along the z axis.
 
You can get the electric field on the ##z##-axis from the electric potential ##V(z)##. Note that all elements ##dq## on the ring are at the same distance from the point of interest on the ##z##-axis. Would ##V(z)## be any different if you squeezed all the charge on the ring into a single point charge in the ##xy## plane at distance ##a## from the origin ?
 

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