Electric Field of a quarter ring

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field generated by a quarter ring of charge, focusing on the integration of electric field components based on varying angle limits.

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  • Participants discuss the integration of electric field components, questioning how changing the limits of integration affects the resulting electric field. There is mention of different methods yielding the same net electric field vector despite variations in the components.

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The conversation is exploring the implications of angle limits on the electric field calculations. Some participants have offered insights into the consistency of results across different methods, while others are questioning the reasons behind these observations.

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There is a focus on defining angles with respect to the positive x-axis, and participants are considering the implications of their chosen limits on the calculations. The discussion hints at potential misunderstandings regarding orientation and its impact on the results.

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When calculating electric field of a quarter ring, putting limits from 0 to π/2 gives field lambda/4πER but when I put the limits as -theta1 to theta 2 taking theta from the middle symmetric axis,it gives a different value= lambda/2√2πER. Why does changing limits change the field?
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dE=Integral kdq/r²
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Define your starting and ending angles conventionally counterclockwise with respect to the positive x-axis as shown in the figure on the right.
Then $$\begin{align} & dE_x=\frac{k\lambda}{R}\cos\theta~d\theta \nonumber \\
& dE_y=\frac{k\lambda }{R}\sin\theta ~d\theta.\nonumber \end{align}$$ Integrate and set the limiting angles ##\theta_1## and ##\theta_2## to whatever you like. One expression does all cases.

For example, in your case I, ##\theta_1=\dfrac{\pi}{2}## and ##\theta_2=\pi.##
 
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Zayan said:
Why does changing limits change the field?
It's not surprising that ##E_x## is different for your two methods. Likewise for ##E_y##.
But your two methods give the same result for the magnitude and direction of the net electric field vector.
 
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kuruman said:
View attachment 347300Define your starting and ending angles conventionally with respect to the positive x-axis as shown in the figure on the right.
Then $$\begin{align} & dE_x=\frac{k\lambda}{R}\cos\theta~d\theta \nonumber \\
& dE_y=\frac{k\lambda }{R}\sin\theta ~d\theta.\nonumber \end{align}$$ Integrate and set the limiting angles ##\theta_1## and ##\theta_2## to whatever you like. One expression does all cases.

For example, in your case I, ##\theta_1=\dfrac{\pi}{2}## and ##\theta_2=\p

TSny said:
It's not surprising that ##E_x## is different for your two methods. Likewise for ##E_y##.
But your two methods give the same result for the magnitude and direction of the net electric field vector.
Yessir it was the Orientation problem
 
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