Electric Field of a quarter ring

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To calculate the electric field of a quarter ring, define the starting and ending angles counterclockwise from the positive x-axis. The components of the electric field are expressed as dE_x and dE_y, which depend on the angle θ. Integrating these components with varying limits shows that while the individual components E_x and E_y may differ, the overall magnitude and direction of the net electric field remain consistent. This highlights the importance of angle orientation in electric field calculations. The discussion emphasizes that despite different methods, the resultant electric field vector is invariant.
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When calculating electric field of a quarter ring, putting limits from 0 to π/2 gives field lambda/4πER but when I put the limits as -theta1 to theta 2 taking theta from the middle symmetric axis,it gives a different value= lambda/2√2πER. Why does changing limits change the field?
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dE=Integral kdq/r²
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Define your starting and ending angles conventionally counterclockwise with respect to the positive x-axis as shown in the figure on the right.
Then $$\begin{align} & dE_x=\frac{k\lambda}{R}\cos\theta~d\theta \nonumber \\
& dE_y=\frac{k\lambda }{R}\sin\theta ~d\theta.\nonumber \end{align}$$ Integrate and set the limiting angles ##\theta_1## and ##\theta_2## to whatever you like. One expression does all cases.

For example, in your case I, ##\theta_1=\dfrac{\pi}{2}## and ##\theta_2=\pi.##
 
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Zayan said:
Why does changing limits change the field?
It's not surprising that ##E_x## is different for your two methods. Likewise for ##E_y##.
But your two methods give the same result for the magnitude and direction of the net electric field vector.
 
kuruman said:
View attachment 347300Define your starting and ending angles conventionally with respect to the positive x-axis as shown in the figure on the right.
Then $$\begin{align} & dE_x=\frac{k\lambda}{R}\cos\theta~d\theta \nonumber \\
& dE_y=\frac{k\lambda }{R}\sin\theta ~d\theta.\nonumber \end{align}$$ Integrate and set the limiting angles ##\theta_1## and ##\theta_2## to whatever you like. One expression does all cases.

For example, in your case I, ##\theta_1=\dfrac{\pi}{2}## and ##\theta_2=\p

TSny said:
It's not surprising that ##E_x## is different for your two methods. Likewise for ##E_y##.
But your two methods give the same result for the magnitude and direction of the net electric field vector.
Yessir it was the Orientation problem
 
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