Electric Field of a ring , mathematically

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The discussion focuses on the mathematical derivation of the electric field produced by a ring with radius r and a uniform line charge λ, specifically along the axis at a distance z from the center. The radial component of the electric field is shown to cancel out due to symmetry, which is proven using cylindrical coordinates. The integral of the radial unit vector over a full rotation (0 to 2π) results in zero, confirming that the radial components do not contribute to the net electric field along the axis.

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This is about the electric field of a ring with radius r, at a distance z from center, along the axis of the ring. The ring carries a uniform line charge
λ
. We always say that the radial component of the field cancels out due to symmetry. Can somebody tell how to prove it mathematically (using cylindrical coordinate system only)?

dErad=−14πϵ0rλdθ(r2+z2)rˆ

Erad=−14πϵ0rλ(r2+z2)∫2π0rˆdθ
 
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Welcome to PF, MinaKaiser! :smile:
MinaKaiser said:
This is about the electric field of a ring with radius r, at a distance z from center, along the axis of the ring. The ring carries a uniform line charge
λ
. We always say that the radial component of the field cancels out due to symmetry. Can somebody tell how to prove it mathematically (using cylindrical coordinate system only)?

dErad=−14πϵ0rλdθ(r2+z2)rˆ

Erad=−14πϵ0rλ(r2+z2)∫2π0rˆdθ

First, let's clean up your formula.

I get:

d\vec E_{rad} = - {1 \over 4\pi \epsilon_o} \cdot {\lambda r d\theta \over r^2 + z^2} \cdot {r \over \sqrt{r^2 + z^2}} \hat r

\vec E_{rad} = - {1 \over 4\pi \epsilon_o} \cdot {\lambda r d\theta \over r^2 + z^2}\cdot {r \over \sqrt{r^2 + z^2}} \int_0^{2\pi} \hat r d\thetaSo what we need is:
\int_0^{2\pi} \hat r d\theta = 0

Since \hat r is not a constant vector, we rewrite it in a basis that is constant:

\hat r = \hat x \cos \theta + \hat y \sin \theta

So
\int_0^{2\pi} \hat r d\theta = \int_0^{2\pi} (\hat x \cos \theta + \hat y \sin \theta) d\theta

Can you see that this is zero?
 
I dont' get it , Why r is not a constant vector ?
 
MinaKaiser said:
I dont' get it , Why r is not a constant vector ?
Here's a picture of cylindrical coordinates:
CylindricalCoordinates_1001.gif


At some point (r, theta, z) we have a local basis which contains \hat r.
But if theta is increased, the direction of \hat r changes.
 

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