A charged conducting ring rotating B field -- referece frames

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The discussion focuses on the magnetic field (B field) generated by a rotating charged ring, specifically addressing the formula B = μ₀*I*r²/2(r²+z²)^(3/2). The variable z represents the height above the center of the ring in a cylindrical coordinate system. It is established that a stationary charged ring adjacent to a spinning disc does not produce a B field in the stationary frame, while the rotating frame experiences a B field. Additionally, a charged rotating ring in a vacuum on magnetic bearings maintains a non-vanishing magnetic field, as energy loss mechanisms are minimal unless charge diminishes over time.

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  • Understanding of electromagnetic theory, specifically magnetic fields generated by current-carrying conductors.
  • Familiarity with cylindrical coordinates and the significance of variables in magnetic field equations.
  • Knowledge of the principles of reference frames in physics, particularly in relation to rotating systems.
  • Basic proficiency in LaTeX for representing mathematical formulas.
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  • Study the derivation and implications of the formula B = μ₀*I*r²/2(r²+z²)^(3/2) in detail.
  • Explore the effects of rotating reference frames on electromagnetic fields, particularly in the context of special relativity.
  • Investigate methods for increasing charge on a rotating ring and the role of dielectric materials in this process.
  • Examine the stability and behavior of magnetic fields in vacuum environments, focusing on energy conservation principles.
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Admittedly I found similar threads here already but due to my rather lacking math skills I wanted to go through this myself.

As for the math side, I see various different equations with which this is treated can someone please provide the formulas for calculating B field from a rotating charged ring as measured from the center of the ring ,

I see the formula B= μ 0*I*r2/2(r2+z2)3/2 is used,
what is meant by z in it ?1) Also on a theoretical side if a charged ring is spun around it's axis there is a B field in the non spinning frame, now if there is a stationary charged ring and next to it a disc that is now spinning then there is no B field in the stationary frame but there is a B field in the rotational frame of the spinning disc , correct?2) Can a charged rotating ring if it is spun up and rotates within a perfect vacuum on magnetic bearings, does the magnetic field such a ring creates in the stationary frame of reference is non vanishing/permanent? As far as I can see there is no mechanism through which energy could be subtracted from this ring , apart from the charge on the ring draining away with time.3)If one wanted to increase the charge on the ring one would need to have a "second plate" and good dielectric nearby but the "second plate" has to be stationary because if it were spinning at the same speed as the ring there would be no B field nor in the ring's frame nor in the stationary as the two opposite charge currents would cancel?
 
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Say the ring is on x-y plane with its center on Origin, you observe z axis. We can say (x, y, z) as coordinate of any space point. And
r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}
 
artis said:
I see the formula B= μ 0*I*r2/2(r2+z2)3/2 is used,
what is meant by z in it ?
You have been with us for more than two years. Please use LaTeX for formulas.
 

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