Electric field of charge distributions

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net electric field at the center of a hollow spherical glass shell with a uniformly distributed positive charge, in the presence of a fixed dipole. The problem involves understanding the behavior of electric fields generated by different charge distributions and their interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine the electric field at the center of the glass shell, questioning whether it is zero due to the nature of the charge distribution. They also explore the contribution of the dipole to the electric field.
  • Some participants clarify that the electric field inside a uniformly charged spherical shell is indeed zero, while the dipole contributes to the field outside the shell.
  • Questions arise regarding the effect of the dipole on the electric field within the metal sphere in the second part of the problem, with participants considering the implications of the conductor's properties.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications about the principles of electric fields in conductors and the behavior of dipoles. There is a recognition of the need to sum the contributions of different charge distributions, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of electric fields in different materials, particularly the behavior of conductors versus insulators. The original poster expresses confusion about the implications of the problem setup and the assumptions that can be made regarding the electric fields involved.

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Homework Statement


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A small, thin, hollow spherical glass shell of radius R carries a uniformly distributed positive charge +Q, as shown in the diagram above. Below it is a horizontal permanent dipole with charges +q and -q separated by a distance s (s is shown greatly enlarged for clarity). The dipole is fixed in position and is not free to rotate. The distance from the center of the glass shell to the center of the dipole is L.

The charge on the thin glass shell is +6e-09 coulombs, the dipole consists of charges of 4e-11 and -4e-11 coulombs, the radius of the glass shell is 0.15 m, the distance L is 0.45 m, and the dipole separation is 2e-05 m. Calculate the net electric field at the center of the glass shell. The x-axis runs to the right, the y-axis runs toward the top of the page, and the z axis runs out of the page, toward you.

E^^->_(net) = < , , > N/C
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If the upper sphere were a solid metal ball with a charge +6e-09 coulombs, what would be the net electric field at its center?
E^^->_(net) = < , , > N/C

Which of the diagrams below best shows the charge distribution in and/or on the metal sphere?
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A
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B
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C
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D
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E
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F
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G
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H
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J
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K

Homework Equations


Electric Force of Dipole: (1/4*pi*epsilon_0)(q*s)/r^3
Electric Force of Sphere: (1/4*pi*epsilon_0)(Q/r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



The question is kind of confusing to me, as it asks to calculate the net electric field at the CENTER of the glass shell. Right now I'm assuming that the electric field AT THE CENTER of the glass shell is zero (is this assumption not correct? since r<R inside the sphere) and that to answer this first part of the question, it would just be the electric field of the DIPOLE, which is <.000079,0,0>N/C.
Also, if I do calculate the electric field of the glass shell, from the center of the glass shell to the center of the dipole, whose distance is .45m, then I would obtain <0,266.667,>N/C.

I am really confused about this first part.

As for the second part, I would assume it would be the same values as when I calculate the net electric field at the center of the glass shell.

For the last part (multiple choice) I'm not entirely sure, but I'm leaning towards C.

HELP WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED, and thank you in advance.
 
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You solved the first part correctly. To find the total field, you must sum up the fields of the glass sphere and of the dipole (principle of superposition). Glass sphere gives zero because charge is distributed uniformly, dipole gives according to the formula.

In the second part, not that the field inside any conductor is always zero, i.e. the charge on the surface of the metal sphere distributes in such a way so as to cancel the field of the dipole inside the sphere.
 
So, what you're saying for the second part is that the only electric field within this system is the metal sphere? Would the dipoles have any effect? If not, then the only net electric is to the negative y direction (as seen in the picture)? So then to calculate the electric field of just the metal sphere, it is 1/(4*pi*epsilon_0)*Q/A?
 
demonhunter19 said:
So, what you're saying for the second part is that the only electric field within this system is the metal sphere? Would the dipoles have any effect? If not, then the only net electric is to the negative y direction (as seen in the picture)? So then to calculate the electric field of just the metal sphere, it is 1/(4*pi*epsilon_0)*Q/A?

I'm not saying that. All the charge in the surroundings contribute to the electric field, both the sphere and the dipole. However, the charge on the sphere distributes in such a way as to oppose the dipole and make the field zero inside the sphere. It's the nature of conductors. Under any circumstances the field inside the conductor is zero.
 

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