Electric field on a piece of wire

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the magnitude of the electric field in the +y-direction at the point (0,D) caused by a thin wire with charge per unit length. The solution involves using trigonometric functions and integrating to find the final equation for the electric field. The mistake of using the wrong angle is pointed out and a suggestion is made to use a different angle for better accuracy.
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Homework Statement


A thin piece of wire, with charge per unit length [itex]\lambda[/itex] lies on the x-axis and extends from x=-L/2 to x=+L/2 so that it has a length L. Show that the electric field (at the point (x,y) = (0,D)) in the +y-direction has magnitude given by [tex]2\frac{\lambda k_{e}}{D}\sin(\theta_{0})[/tex].
The file attached below is to show where theta is pulled from.

Homework Equations



[tex]d\mathbf{E}=k_{e}\frac{dq}{r^2}\mathbf{\hat{r}}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Here is what I managed to boil up
First let
[tex]\theta+\phi=\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex]
then
[tex]r=\frac{D}{\sin(\phi)}[/tex]
[tex]dq=\lambda dx = -\lambda D d\phi[/tex]
[tex]\hat{r}=\left(\begin{array}{cc}\cos(\phi)\\\sin(\phi)\end{array}\right)[/tex]
[tex]\int dE_{y}=-\frac{\lambda k_{e}}{D}\int_{\phi_{0}+\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\theta_{0}-\frac{\pi}{2}}\sin^3(\theta)d\theta[/tex]
Finally
[tex]E_{y}=\frac{\lambda k_{e}}{D}(2\sin(\theta_{0})-\frac{2}{3}\sin^3(\theta_{0}))[/tex]
Did I do something wrong or did they assume that the sin cubed term is small and hence got rid of it?

Thanks,
 

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As [tex] sin(\theta_{0}) [/tex] is less than 1, [tex] sin^3(\theta_{0}) [/tex] is a lot smaller than [tex] sin(\theta_{0}) [/tex] so can basically be ignored I believe. So yes you were right.
 
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I think using [tex]\theta[/tex] will avoid some mistakes that using [tex]\phi[/tex] may make.

vladimir69 said:

[tex]dq=\lambda dx = -\lambda D d\phi[/tex]


It's wrong.
You may find it simple if using this: [tex]x=Dtan\theta[/tex] :wink:
 
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Ahh damn, that was careless.

I used [itex]\phi[/itex] because it helps with getting the right direction for the unit vector, but screwed up the differential unfortunately. (actually I did a similar error the second time aswell)

Thanks for the help.
 
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I would like to commend you on your attempt at a solution. However, I do see a few errors in your calculations. First, the limits of integration should be from 0 to L, as the wire extends from x=-L/2 to x=+L/2. Also, the expression for dq should be \lambda dx, not -\lambda D d\phi. Additionally, the unit vector \hat{r} should be in terms of x and y, not \phi.

Regarding your question about the sin cubed term, it is possible that the authors of the problem assumed that \theta_{0} is small, which would make the sin cubed term negligible. However, without more context or information, I cannot say for sure. It would be best to double check your calculations and try to resolve any discrepancies before making any assumptions about the given solution.
 

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