Electric field on a ring's axis

In summary: Therefore, the direction of ##dE## and ##E## in this example is radial. In summary, the contribution coming from a little segment of the ring is ##d\vec{E}=\frac{dQ}{r^2}cos\theta \hat{z}##, assuming that the horizontal components cancel out. To show this, a good diagram is essential. By calculation, the x-component of ##dE## is ##-dE\sin\theta \cos \phi## and the net x-component is obtained by integrating with respect to ##\phi##. The z-component of ##d\vec E## is obtained by multiplying ##dE## by ##\cos \psi##, where ##
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Find the electric field above ring's center
Relevant Equations
##d\vec{E}=\frac{dQ}{r^2}cos\theta \hat{z}##
The contribution coming from a little segment of the ring is ##d\vec{E}=\frac{dQ}{r^2}cos\theta \hat{z}##, assuming that the horizontal components cancel out. But how can we show that?
 
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Hello. Just to be clear, are you asking why the horizontal components of all of the ##d\vec E##'s cancel out?
 
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Yes, the horizontal (radial) component of the field above the center.
 
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OK. A good diagram is essential. Pick a small segment of the ring at the left side of the ring and draw the electric field vector produced by this segment at the location of the point above the center. Repeat for another segment at the right side of the ring (diametrically opposite to the segment at the left).
 
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This I understand. But how can we obtain that by calculation? In this case, the total field (counting only the vertical components) is ##\vec{E} = \int_{S}^{}\frac{\lambda* cos\theta\hat{z}}{R^2+z^2}ds## (S being the ring), where we can simply multiply the integrated function by ##2\pi R##. Why does not a similar calculation with ##sin\theta\hat{x}## instead of ##cos\theta\hat{z}## yield 0?
 
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The x-component of ##dE## for an arbitrary segment is not given by using a factor of just ##\sin \theta##

PF Charged ring July 2019.png


Show that the x-component of ##dE## shown above is ##-dE\sin\theta \cos \phi##. The net x-component is obtained by integrating with respect to ##\phi##.
 
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I have one more (related) question. In the attached exercise, to obtain ##E_{z}##, ##E## is multiplied by ##cos\psi##. Why is it so?
 

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Note that for the element of charge shown, the angle between ##d\vec E## and the z-axis is ##\psi##. So, you get the z-component of ##d \vec E## by multiplying ##dE## by ##\cos \psi##.
 
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How can we determine the direction of dE (or E) in this example?
 
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ranger281 said:
assuming that the horizontal components cancel out. But how can we show that?
The usual way is by a symmetry argument. The arrangement has circular symmetry about the vertical axis, so the field must have that symmetry too.
 
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How can we determine the direction of dE (or E) in this example?
The element of charge can be considered a point charge.
##d \vec E## points radially away from the element of charge.

PF electric field of element of charge on a sphere.png
 
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1. What is an electric field on a ring's axis?

An electric field on a ring's axis is the measure of the force exerted on a charged particle placed on the axis of a charged ring. It is a vector quantity and is expressed in units of Newtons per Coulomb (N/C).

2. How is the electric field on a ring's axis calculated?

The electric field on a ring's axis is calculated using the formula E = kqz/r^2, where k is the Coulomb's constant, q is the charge of the ring, z is the distance from the ring's center to the point on the axis, and r is the radius of the ring.

3. Does the electric field on a ring's axis change with distance from the ring?

Yes, the electric field on a ring's axis decreases as the distance from the ring increases. This is because the strength of the electric field is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source.

4. How does the charge of the ring affect the electric field on its axis?

The charge of the ring directly affects the strength of the electric field on its axis. As the charge of the ring increases, the electric field also increases, as long as the distance from the ring remains constant.

5. What is the direction of the electric field on a ring's axis?

The direction of the electric field on a ring's axis is radial, pointing away from the center of the ring if the charge is positive and towards the center if the charge is negative.

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