Electric field outside a long cylindrical shell

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The problem involves determining the electric field outside a long cylindrical shell with a uniform surface charge density. The specific parameters include a radius of 12.3 cm and a point located 16.5 cm from the center of the cylinder.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss's law and the significance of the distance from the center of the cylinder in calculating the electric field. There are questions about the correct area used in calculations and the interpretation of the electric field's behavior at varying distances from the cylinder.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning assumptions about the distance and the nature of the electric field around a cylindrical shell. Some have offered clarifications regarding the relationship between charge density, area, and the electric field, while others are exploring the implications of using different values for distance in their calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the differences in electric field behavior between various geometries, such as cylinders and planes. Participants are also reflecting on their previous calculations and assumptions regarding the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A long cylindrical shell of radius R = 12.3 cm carries a uniform surface charge 4.60E-6 C/m2. Using Gauss's law find the electrical field at a point p2 = 16.5 from the center of the cylinder.

Homework Equations



EA=q/epsilon0

The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I thought would work but does not produce the answer. The area is arbitrary I believe so I just used a 1m strip of the cylinder, A=2*0.123m*1m=0.246,**2. Q is found by multiplying the area of the cylinder by the charge density, Q=2*pi*r*1*(density)=3.555*10**-6 C. Solve for E, E=Q/(A*epsilon0) =0.163*10**6 N/C which is not correct. Any help would be great, especially if its before 11pm EST tonight.
 
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Hi MeMoses! :smile:

Difficult to tell without seeing your intermediate steps …

but did you use r = 16.5 ?
 
i don't believe r=16.5 is needed, we just need to know that it is outside the cylinder, since it is an infinitely long cylinder the field should not be dramatically affected by distance. I think i just calculated area wrong
 
MeMoses said:
… since it is an infinitely long cylinder the field should not be dramatically affected by distance.

that works for an infinite flat plate, since the field lines can't get any further apart as they go away …

but they do get further apart from a cylinder, don't they? :wink:
 
Yup compare the lines for a plane, cylinder/wire and sphere to see how their spacing varies with distance from the object.
 
Ok that makes sense now. I feel like an idiot for think that. However, just to clarify, would the equation I need simplify as such, E*A=Q/epsilon -> E(2*pi*r*h)=Q/epsilon, and Q=(2*pi*r*h)*charge density? and would every r here be the distance from the center, not the radius of the cylinder as I previously thought?
 
Ok i got, thanks for the help
 
Good job!
 

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