Electric field strength in a square.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field strength at the center of a square with specific charge configurations at its corners. The square has positive charges at three corners and a negative charge at one corner, leading to questions about the resultant electric field at the center point O.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate the electric field due to each charge and consider vector summation. There is confusion regarding the terms used, specifically mixing up electric and magnetic fields. Some participants question the cancellation of electric fields from certain charges and the implications of charge equality.

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Participants are actively engaging in the problem, with some providing calculations and others questioning assumptions about charge magnitudes and distances. There is a mix of agreement and differing interpretations regarding the contributions of each charge to the electric field.

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The problem involves four charges, with one being negative and the others positive, and participants are exploring the implications of this configuration on the electric field strength at the center of the square. There is mention of specific distances and the need for clarity on the setup.

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Hi guys,

Suppose I have a point O in the centre of the square (of side length X), where the top 2 corners of the square carries a positive charge each and the bottom left corner a negative charge and the bottom right corner a positive charge, what would the magnitude and direction of the magnetic field strength at point O be? I figured that it would be towards M, but how do I find it's magnitude?

The given answer is q/(pi)(Enot)(x^2). I don't really understand why is the 4 missing?

Thanks!
 
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First find the electric field due to each point charge, and then find the vector sum.
One more thing, you do mean electric field, don't you? Why would there be a magnetic field?
 
Thanks for the help. I apologise I did mean electric field was thinking of some other question at the same time! :wink:
 
Hi Siddarth

Wodner if you could help me out further here.. after some doing I realized I couldn't get rid of the 4, but it would instead be 2.

Here's my working, the electric field strength due to the top left and bottom right corner would be 0 as they cancel out (am I correct?). But the field strength due to the top right and bottom left corner would be 2q/4(pi)(Enot)(x^2)?

Thanks
 
al_201314 said:
Here's my working, the electric field strength due to the top left and bottom right corner would be 0 as they cancel out (am I correct?).
Yeah, if the charges are the same.

al_201314 said:
But the field strength due to the top right and bottom left corner would be 2q/4(pi)(Enot)(x^2)?
Thanks

Not quite, what's the distance of the center of the square O from each vertex? (It isn't x)

Also, I don't get the given answer. Are you sure the charges are equal?
 
Thanks Siddarth for the assistance.. I think I got the answer..

Yes the question states that 4 equal charges except for the bottom left is a negatively charged one compared to the rest of the positively charged ones.

Here's my complete working, I'll name the sides J, K L and M for ident purposes starting from the top left corner in a clockwise direction. So M is the point that carries the -ve charge. E field due J and L cancels each other. The (distance)^2 between K and O I calculated to be (x^2)/2 which is also the (distance)^2 between O and M. So by vector addition, E field due K and M should be in the same direction I got [q/4(pi)(Enot)(x^2)/2] + [q/4(pi)(Enot)(x^2)/2] which gives the answer to be q/(pi)(Enot0)(x^2) after cancelling out the numbers.

Thanks once again.
 
Yeah, that's right.
 

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