Electric Force and Work Question

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The problem involves three identical charged particles placed at the corners of an equilateral triangle, which are set free to move due to Coulomb's repulsion. The discussion centers on calculating the work done by the Coulomb forces as the particles move apart to a large distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the work-energy theorem and the calculation of kinetic energy changes. There is confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the work done and the given answer. Some participants question whether the work is being calculated for one particle or all three.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the provided answer. Some guidance has been offered regarding the potential energy of the system and the possibility of the work being related to a single particle.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the correctness of the given answer and whether it applies to one particle or the system as a whole. Participants are also considering the implications of the problem statement and the assumptions made in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Three identical particles, each possessing mass m and charge +q, are placed at the corners of an equilateral triangle with side r. The particles are simultaneously set free and start flying apart symmetrically due to coulomb's repulsion forces. The work performed by Coulomb's forces acting on each particle until the particles fly from one another to a very large distance is --

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


According to the work energy theorem,
ΔKE = W
Also ΔKE of one particle = 2kq^2/r
So, ΔKE of all three particles = 6kq^2/r
Hence, W = 6kq^2/r

However, the answer given is kq^2/r

What have I done wrong?
 
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erisedk said:

Homework Statement


Three identical particles, each possessing mass m and charge +q, are placed at the corners of an equilateral triangle with side r. The particles are simultaneously set free and start flying apart symmetrically due to coulomb's repulsion forces. The work performed by Coulomb's forces acting on each particle until the particles fly from one another to a very large distance is --

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


According to the work energy theorem,
ΔKE = W
Also ΔKE of one particle = 2kq^2/r
So, ΔKE of all three particles = 6kq^2/r
Hence, W = 6kq^2/r

However, the answer given is kq^2/r

What have I done wrong?
Neither answer looks right to me.
Are you sure you have quoted the given answer correctly?
You quoted the work done as the first particle goes off a great distance. That having happened, what work is done on the next one?
 
What about 3kq^2/r?
That's the potential energy of the system initially.
I have quoted it right, but sometimes those answers at the back can be wrong so it's not necessary to completely trust it.
 
erisedk said:
What about 3kq^2/r?
That's the answer I'd give.
 
Ok thank you then, that's what I thought sometime after the original post.
 
Maybe, they're asking work done on ONE particle, that's why it's 1/3rd?
 
erisedk said:
Maybe, they're asking work done on ONE particle, that's why it's 1/3rd?
Yes, it says 'each'.
 

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