Electric Potential Energy question

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The discussion revolves around understanding electric potential energy, specifically the interactions between charged particles, including positive and negative charges. Participants are exploring the implications of electric potential and the work done in various scenarios involving these charges.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning how electric potential acts between like charges (positive-positive, negative-negative) and unlike charges (positive-negative). There is confusion regarding when work is considered positive or negative in these contexts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the definitions of electric potential and the nature of work done in moving charges. Some guidance has been offered regarding the direction of electric fields and the concept of potential at infinity, but clarity on specific scenarios remains sought after.

Contextual Notes

Participants are operating under the assumption that the potential at infinity is zero, which influences their understanding of electric potential and work. There is also a mention of arbitrary definitions related to potential, which may affect interpretations.

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This isn't really a homework problem. I just want to understand electric potention
[tex]\Delta[/tex]V=Uf-Ui=-W

Uf= final
Ui=initial

Can someone explain to me how electric potential acts between two positive electrons, or two negative electrons or a + and a negative electron. In which cases would work be positive and why ?

Thank you
 
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th3plan said:
Can someone explain to me how electric potential acts between two positive electrons, or two negative electrons or a + and a negative electron. In which cases would work be positive and why ?

Hi th3plan! :smile:

We (arbitrarily) define the potential to be 0 at infinite distance.

To bring a + charge near another + from infinity, you have to overcome the repulsion, so you have to do work on it.

To bring a - charge near a + to infinity, you have to overcome the attraction, so you have to do work on it. :smile:
 
so if work has to be done on it its considered -w , for a + to a + to be brought together, but for a + and a - u have to do work to bring together ? Why ? They naturally attract :S ?
 
th3plan said:
so if work has to be done on it its considered -w , for a + to a + to be brought together, but for a + and a - u have to do work to bring together ? Why ? They naturally attract :S ?

Hi th3plan! :smile:

No, you have to do work to separate them, to bring them to infinity. :smile:
 
Hi th3plan! Thanks for the PM. :smile:
th3plan said:
kinda still confused. Let's say the potential given to me is positive and something like 200V. This means the electric field is in the same directions as potential ?

(Assuming the potential at infinity is 0?)

The electric field points outward for a same charge, and inward for an opposite charge. :smile:
 

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