Electric potential of concentric spheres

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The discussion revolves around the electric potential of concentric spheres, specifically focusing on the behavior of electric fields and potentials within and around conducting shells. Participants are examining the implications of the electric field being zero in certain regions and how this affects the potential at different points.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the relationship between electric fields and potentials, particularly questioning why the potential is expressed in terms of different variables (kq/c vs. kq/b). There is also exploration of the Shell Theorem and its implications for potential inside the sphere.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and hints regarding the continuity of potential across different regions. Some participants are clarifying the mathematical relationships involved, while others are exploring the implications of the electric field being zero in certain areas. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive lines of reasoning are being developed.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available. There are references to specific variables (a, b, c) and the need to find constants for different domains of the potential, indicating that assumptions about these variables are under discussion.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


V = integral of E * dr


The Attempt at a Solution


I do not completely understand the solution to part B. I was able to solve it with the use of hints.

My guess to the explanation is: the electric field is 0 in the hollow conducting sphere/shell and thus the potential should at the inner surface and the outer surface should be equal.

However, I do not know why the potential is kq/c and not kq/b.

Also, I do not know the solution to part C (the hint says it involves both variables a and b).

My attempt at part C was kq/a
 
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Since the electric field for b<r<c is zero, charge is uniformly distributed on the outer part of the sphere. So the potential for points B and C(and anything in between) should be...?

Edit: I thought this would be a better way to solve. Do you know Shell Theorem? What does that imply on the potential inside the sphere?
 
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Since E=-dV/dr, and E inside the sphere is zero, therefore -dV/dr is zero and therefore V=constant as the rate of change of potential is zero. Hence, the potential inside the sphere is equal to the potential at the surface of sphere.
 
5te4lthX said:

Homework Equations


V = integral of E * dr

You missed a minus sign, and do not forget that the integration involves an additional constant.
If E=kq/r2 the potential is

[itex]V=-\int{Edr}=-\int{k\frac{q}{r^2}}=k\frac{q}{r}+C[/itex]

It is very important to note that the potential is continuous. It does not jump at an interface. You need two find the constant C for each domain.

The potential is zero at infinity. That means C=0 for r≥c, V=kq/r for r≥c,so it is V(c)=kq/c at the outer surface of the hollow sphere.

The electric field is zero inside a conductor so the potential is constant.
The potential is continuous, it is the same at the inner side of the outer surface as outside: V=kq/c, and stays the same in the whole shell, even at radius b: V(b)=kq/c.

The potential in the empty space between r=a and r=b is of the form V(r)=kq/r+C' again, with a different constant as in the domain r>c. And the continuity requires that V(b)=kq/b+C'=kq/c at r=b. Find C', and then calculate V(a).

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