Electrical Circuit - Power dissipation

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The discussion revolves around understanding power dissipation in a purely resistive electrical circuit connected to a 10 VDC power supply. Participants are exploring the implications of measuring voltage with the circuit disconnected versus connected, and the characteristics of ideal versus non-ideal DC voltage sources.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the rationale behind measuring the source voltage while the circuit is disconnected, with some suggesting that it relates to the unloaded voltage output of the power supply. Others are discussing the differences between ideal and non-ideal DC voltage sources, particularly focusing on internal resistance and power losses.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their interpretations and understanding of the concepts involved. Some have drawn diagrams to clarify their thoughts, and there is an acknowledgment of the complexity of measuring true power dissipation versus the apparent power due to the power supply's characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the behavior of the power supply under different conditions and the implications for accurate power dissipation measurements. There is a lack of explicit consensus on the best approach to take in the lab scenario.

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During a Lab we had a simple purely resistive circuit hooked up to a 10 VDC power supply with an adjustable voltage output. In order to determine the power dissipated by the circuit we were asked to determine the source voltage while the circuit was DISCONNECTED... we were not told why... In the Lab write up we are asked to explain clearly why we had to do this...

The only thing I can think of is that with the circuit disconnected no current would be running through the secondary side of the step down transformer in the power supply which would give you the unloaded voltage output...when the circuit is connected current would start flowing through he secondary and maybe the CEMF affects the apparent voltage output? I have no idea... Can someone please explain why this gives a more accurate reading for power dissipated?
 
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What is the essential difference between an ideal DC voltage source and a non-ideal DC voltage source?
 
im not 100% sure what you mean by that but I am assuming you mean... an ideal DC power source has 0 losses and a non-ideal power source does have losses?
 
rambo5330 said:
im not 100% sure what you mean by that but I am assuming you mean... an ideal DC power source has 0 losses and a non-ideal power source does have losses?

Essentially, yes. Basically, any non-ideal DC power source will operate similarly to an ideal DC power source except that it has an internal resistance. How might you apply that knowledge to the problem at hand?
 
actually that is exactly what your talking about... i just drew it out with the source and a resistor in series and did KVL and yes i totally understand now... but basically this is not giving true power dissipated by the circuit is it not... its now including power dissipated by the power supply as well... (which isss part of the circuit i suppose).. could we not just adjust the voltage to our probler 10 V while the circuit is attached and then measure the current at various parts and use this as the power dissipated by our circuit ...
 

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