[Electrical force] Electrical charge in equilateral triangle

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The discussion centers on calculating the resultant force on a charge in an equilateral triangle configuration using the forces exerted by other charges. Participants clarify that while the Pythagorean theorem applies to right-angled triangles, the rule of cosines is more suitable for this scenario. One user confirms using the law of cosines to find the resultant force but initially misidentified angles. The correct angle for an equilateral triangle is 60 degrees, which is crucial for accurate calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding geometric principles in electrical force calculations.
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Homework Statement
In each corner of equilateral triangle there is a charge with 5 nAs. What force works on the e3 charge (see image). Length of a side is 5 cm. e1 is charged with negative charge.
Relevant Equations
F = (1/(4*Pi*eps0))*(e*e)/r^2
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Not being a computer myself, I find that a bit hard to follow! Can you explain what you're doing?
 
F23 is a force on the 3rd charge from 2nd charge
F13 is a force on the 3rd charge from the 1st charge
Fr is a sum of both (Pythagorean theorem).
 
sea333 said:
F23 is a force on the 3rd charge from 2nd charge
F13 is a force on the 3rd charge from the 1st charge
Fr is a sum of both (Pythagorean theorem).
Doesn't Pythagoras only apply to right-angled triangles?
 
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PeroK said:
Doesn't Pythagoras only apply to right-angled triangles?
I will check if forces are right-angled
 
sea333 said:
I will check this
There is a generalisation called the "rule of cosines", which is very useful.
 
PeroK said:
There is a generalisation called the "rule of cosines", which is very useful.
I have used Cosines to calculate Fr and I still don't get the correct result:
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That's not right! Did you look up the rule of cosines?
 
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Should I use the Law of cosines ? c^{2}=a^{2}+b^{2}-2ab*cos
Then I would need angle gamma?
I have updated the picture
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Yes. ##\gamma## can only be one thing!
 
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I have used for gamma = 60 and got correct result but how do you know that gamma = 60 ?
I don't know why I thought that any of the angles is 90 degrees.
The correct result:
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If you want to use Pythagorean theorem or Cos/Sin function you need one angle to be 90 degrees.
 
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sea333 said:
how do you know that gamma = 60 ?
I looked at your diagram!
 
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