[Electrical force] Electrical charge in equilateral triangle

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The discussion centers on calculating the resultant electrical force (Fr) on a charge located at the vertex of an equilateral triangle using the Law of Cosines. Participants clarify that while the Pythagorean theorem applies to right-angled triangles, the Law of Cosines is necessary for non-right triangles, specifically in this case where each angle is 60 degrees. The correct formula for the Law of Cosines is given as c² = a² + b² - 2ab*cos(γ), where γ is the angle between the two sides. The importance of identifying the correct angle, γ, as 60 degrees is emphasized for accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement
In each corner of equilateral triangle there is a charge with 5 nAs. What force works on the e3 charge (see image). Length of a side is 5 cm. e1 is charged with negative charge.
Relevant Equations
F = (1/(4*Pi*eps0))*(e*e)/r^2
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Not being a computer myself, I find that a bit hard to follow! Can you explain what you're doing?
 
F23 is a force on the 3rd charge from 2nd charge
F13 is a force on the 3rd charge from the 1st charge
Fr is a sum of both (Pythagorean theorem).
 
sea333 said:
F23 is a force on the 3rd charge from 2nd charge
F13 is a force on the 3rd charge from the 1st charge
Fr is a sum of both (Pythagorean theorem).
Doesn't Pythagoras only apply to right-angled triangles?
 
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PeroK said:
Doesn't Pythagoras only apply to right-angled triangles?
I will check if forces are right-angled
 
sea333 said:
I will check this
There is a generalisation called the "rule of cosines", which is very useful.
 
PeroK said:
There is a generalisation called the "rule of cosines", which is very useful.
I have used Cosines to calculate Fr and I still don't get the correct result:
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That's not right! Did you look up the rule of cosines?
 
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Should I use the Law of cosines ? c^{2}=a^{2}+b^{2}-2ab*cos
Then I would need angle gamma?
I have updated the picture
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Yes. ##\gamma## can only be one thing!
 
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I have used for gamma = 60 and got correct result but how do you know that gamma = 60 ?
I don't know why I thought that any of the angles is 90 degrees.
The correct result:
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If you want to use Pythagorean theorem or Cos/Sin function you need one angle to be 90 degrees.
 
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sea333 said:
how do you know that gamma = 60 ?
I looked at your diagram!
 

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