Electrical oscillations of an RLC circuit

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The discussion revolves around electrical oscillations in a series RLC circuit, specifically focusing on the time intervals for current and energy to decrease to 50% of their initial values. Participants are analyzing the mathematical relationships involved in the behavior of the circuit under the condition where resistance is much smaller than a certain threshold.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between current and charge in an RLC circuit, questioning the relevance of sine and cosine terms in the equations. There is an attempt to simplify the expression for current and clarify the role of the exponential decay factor.

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Some participants have provided guidance on focusing on the exponential part of the current equation, while others seek clarification on the conversion of sine and cosine terms into a single cosine term and the implications for the amplitude. The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored.

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Electrical oscillations are initiated in a series circuit containing a capacitance C, inductance L, and resistance R.

a) If

R << \sqrt{\frac{4L}{C}}

what time interval elapses before the amplitude of the current oscillation falls to 50.0% of its initial value?

b)Over what time interval does the energy decrease to 50.0% of its initial value?
For a), I recognize that current is the first derivative of the charge, which for an RLC circuit with small R is:

Q = Q_i e^\frac{-Rt}{2L} cos(\omega_d t)

Which would make the current:

I = \frac{-I_i e^(\frac{-R t}{2L})}{2L} (2Lw_d sin(w_d t) + cos(w_d t)

From here, I know that I'll set

I = 0.500 I_max

But then, how do I solve for t? My hunch is that the sine/cosine part of the equation just controls the oscillations, not the amplitude. In that case, I would disregard that part of the equation and solve for t using the exponential part of the equation. Is that a correct assumption, or am I doing something horribly wrong?
 
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You are right, use only the exponential part.

ehild
 
Alright. I'm a bit confused, though. I've stated that the current is:

<br /> <br /> I = I_i \frac{e^(\frac{-R t}{2L})}{2L} (2L \omega_d sin(\omega_d t) + cos(\omega_d t))<br /> <br />

I could also have stated it as:

<br /> <br /> I = I_i e^(\frac{-R t}{2L}) (\omega_d sin(\omega_d t) + \frac{R}{2L} cos(\omega_d t))<br /> <br />

Which version of the exponential would I be worried? Specifically, I'm wondering if it's necessary to consider (1 / 2L) as part of the exponential, or if I can keep it with the sine/cosine terms and disregard it as only affecting the oscillations.

My thought is that I would follow through as:

<br /> <br /> I = 0.500 I_i<br /> <br />

<br /> <br /> 0.500 I_i = I_i e^(\frac{-R t}{2L})<br /> <br />

<br /> <br /> 0.500 = e^(\frac{-R t}{2L})<br /> <br />

<br /> <br /> ln(\frac{1}{2}) = \frac{-R t}{2L}<br /> <br />

<br /> <br /> ln(2) = \frac{R t}{2L}<br /> <br />

<br /> <br /> t = \frac{ln(4) L}{R}<br /> <br />

Is that correct?
 
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The cosine and sine terms can be replaced with a single Acos(ωt+φ) term, and including A into the amplitude (I0) you have the equation

I=I0exp(-Rt/(2L))

for the time dependence of the amplitude of the current. So your derivation is correct.

ehild

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I'm sorry, can you explain a bit further? The equation that I have is:

<br /> <br /> I = I_i e^(\frac{-R t}{2L}) (\omega_d sin(\omega_d t) + \frac{R}{2L} cos(\omega_d t))<br /> <br />

How is it that I can convert the sine and cosine terms to a single cosine term? Is there a trigonometric identity that I'm missing? And how would one establish A? Furthermore, would A be a necessary part of the solution to finding the time dependence of the current? Or is it irrelevant, just like the trigonometric term? It would be helpful if you explained a bit more. Thank you!
 
Also, I apologize. The term that comes after e should be an exponent. That is, it should be e^((-Rt)/(2L)).
 
Yes, it comes from the summation lows of trigonometry that the sum or difference of a sine and a cosine function of the same argument is equivalent with a single sine or cosine.

a sin(ωt) + b cos(ωt) = A sin (ωt +φ )

You can find A and φ first by applying the sum rule to the right-hand side then comparing the sinωt and cosωt terms:

A sin(ωt +φ )=A sinωt cosφ + A cosωt sinφ

The two sides must be equal at any time:

a sin(ωt) + b cos(ωt) = A sin(ωt) cosφ + A cos(ωt) sinφ

If sin(ωt)=0, cos(ωt) =1 and b=A sinφ,

if cos(ωt)=0 and sin(ωt)=1 : a=A cosφ.

so

A2=a2+b2 and tanφ=b/a.

ehild
 

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