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The discussion revolves around the search for materials that exhibit electrical conductivity while simultaneously being thermally insulating. Participants explore potential applications and methods to achieve this balance, particularly in the context of heating a conductive substrate without losing heat through the connecting wires.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the specific requirements for insulation and conductivity, suggesting that the definitions may vary.
  • Another participant proposes that mechanical assemblies could be a solution, using thin wires for electricity that pass through holes in thermal insulators.
  • A participant describes a scenario where a high electrical conductivity (>10^6 S/m) is needed for the substrate, while requiring a low thermal conductivity (<0.2 W/mK) to prevent heat loss.
  • One suggestion involves using high resistance feed wires and increasing the supply voltage to manage heat transfer effectively.
  • Another approach mentioned is thermal buffering, where copper blocks or rings are heated externally to match the temperature of the test piece, potentially mitigating heat loss.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various strategies and considerations, but there is no consensus on a specific material or method that meets the criteria of being both electrically conductive and thermally insulating.

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Participants have not fully defined the terms of electrical and thermal conductivity, nor have they resolved the mathematical implications of the proposed solutions. The discussion remains open to interpretation and further exploration.

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Individuals interested in materials science, electrical engineering, and thermal management applications may find this discussion relevant.

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Are there any materials that are electrically conductive but are thermally insulating?
 
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How insulating/non-conductive?
 
- and what do you want it for ?

This type of requirement can often be met using a mechanical assembly . Many interpretations but conceptually thin wires for the electricity going through holes in sheets of good thermal insulator .
 
I want to heat a thin electrically conductive substrate to a high temperature by passing current through it. Unfortunately the electrical wires made of copper conduct the heat away after a certain point. So, an electrical conductivity of >10^6 S/m (basically metal) to conduct the electricity, but at the same time thermal conductivity of <0.2 W/mK so that it does not conduct the heat away.
 
Use high resistance feed wires and increase the supply voltage .

If you use something like Nichrome wire and get your sums right the wire will get hot enough to be in thermal equilibrium with the substrate .
 
Another way of doing the same thing is to use thermal buffering .

Blocks or rings of copper are arranged to surround the test piece and are heated by external means to a temperature similar to that of the test piece .
 

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