Electricity and magnetism (magnitude of magnetic field)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude of the magnetic field inside a toroidal solenoid, specifically focusing on the effects of the number of turns and the current flowing through it. The subject area is electricity and magnetism.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a formula for the magnetic field but questions the impact of the solenoid's turns on the field strength. Other participants raise questions about the differences in magnetic fields produced by single loops versus multiple loops and the implications of adding loops.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of how magnetic fields behave in relation to the number of loops and the current. Some guidance has been offered regarding the addition of magnetic fields from multiple loops, and resources have been suggested for further understanding.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the behavior of magnetic fields, particularly in relation to Ampere's Law and the concept of current in the center of the solenoid. The original poster expresses frustration with their current understanding and educational support.

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A 1000-turn toroidal solenoid has a central radius of 4.2 cm and is carrying a current of 1.7 A. What is the magnitude of the magnetic field inside the solenoid at the central radius? (μ0=4∏×10^-7 T ∙ m/A) r= 4.2cm= 0.042m

B=(μ0)(I)/(2∏)(r) ⇔ (4∏×10^-7)(1.7)/(2∏)(0.042) ⇔ 1.43x10^-8 T? Or does the 1000-turn toroidal affects in the magnetic field in some sort of a way?
 
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Would you expect a long coil of wire to have a different field to a single loop?
What would you expect for the field due to two loops of current?
 
yes. But, how different will be? Is there a formula for it?
 
Don't go by formulas, use your understanding of how magnetic fields work - if one loop had a field of B, and you added another one the same, what do you think would happen to the field?
 
that's the problem! I don't know how magnetic fields work! I have a bad teacher, and I'm running out of time! Another source told me that there's no current in the center, and by Ampere's Law the current in the center is zero. is this true?
 
that's great! I was missing the N, the 1000 turns. thank you!
 
That's cool ... the lesson here is that electric and magnetic fields add together. This is called "the superposition principle". Make sure you work through the hyperphysics pages to bring you up to speed.
 

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