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Is there any engine which works using electromagnet?
Electromagnetic Engine: Can It Power an Engine?
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the concept of engines that utilize electromagnets, specifically exploring whether such engines exist and how they compare to traditional engines. Participants delve into the definitions of engines and the mechanics of electric motors versus other potential applications of electromagnetism in engine design.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants inquire about the existence of engines that operate using electromagnets, distinguishing this from traditional electric motors.
- One participant mentions historical designs like the Magneto Electric Engine, which utilized a reciprocating mechanism similar to steam engines.
- Another participant asserts that all electric motors function through electromagnets, but this does not address the specific inquiry about piston movement controlled by electromagnets.
- A suggestion is made that linear actuators could serve as a mechanism moved by electromagnets, though this may not align with the traditional definition of a piston.
- Mag-lev trains are referenced as an application of electromagnetism, though their classification as engines is questioned.
- Participants discuss the definition of an engine, with one arguing that if an engine uses electromagnets instead of thermal energy, it may not fit the conventional definition of an engine.
- A link is provided to a V6 engine utilizing solenoids, suggesting a possible intersection of electromagnetism and engine design.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
There is no consensus on whether engines powered by electromagnets can be classified as engines under traditional definitions. Multiple competing views exist regarding the applicability and classification of such devices.
Contextual Notes
Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of engines and the implications of using electromagnets in their operation. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of what constitutes an engine and the efficiency of electromagnet-based mechanisms compared to traditional engines.
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tech99
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When people first started to make electric motors they copied the steam engine, with a reciprocating mechanism. One is illustrated in my old book and is called the Magneto Electric Engine, and has a connecting rod and flywheel. You may will find these in science museums - I think they have one at the Royal Institution in London. Later on it was found that rotary engines were better.psvtrajan said:
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All electric motors work using electromagnets.
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I'm not asking for electric motor.
Is there any engine, in which piston movement is controlled by electromagnets?
Is there any engine, in which piston movement is controlled by electromagnets?
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A linear actuator could be considered a connecting rod moved by an electromagnet.
But calling it a piston is probably technically incorrect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocating_electric_motor
Seems they have uses as linear compressors.
I can't imagine that it would ever be more efficient than an electric motor with gearing.
Google Reciprocating Electric Engine
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFpitPUKDls
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But calling it a piston is probably technically incorrect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocating_electric_motor
Seems they have uses as linear compressors.
I can't imagine that it would ever be more efficient than an electric motor with gearing.
Google Reciprocating Electric Engine
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFpitPUKDls
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Mag-lev trains.
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I'm asking for engine
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Straight from:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/engine?s=t
Engine is described as:
So you want a heat engine as described by definition #1 that uses electromagnets instead of heat? If so it is no longer considered an engine by definition. So are you still going to get hung up on words and definitions? Live by strict definitions, die by strict definitions.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/engine?s=t
Engine is described as:
So you want a heat engine as described by definition #1 that uses electromagnets instead of heat? If so it is no longer considered an engine by definition. So are you still going to get hung up on words and definitions? Live by strict definitions, die by strict definitions.
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This link might be of interest, a V6 engine using solenoids.Averagesupernova said: