Electromagnetic Induction Help Requested

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around an experiment on electromagnetic induction, specifically the unexpected behavior of output current generated by a rotating magnetic wheel with Neodymium magnets and a copper coil. Participants explore the relationship between the speed of the wheel and the induced current, referencing Faraday's law of induction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Ashish reports that higher speeds of the magnetic wheel result in lower output current, contrary to expectations based on Faraday's law.
  • Some participants inquire about the orientation of the magnets, suggesting that alternating north-south orientations might improve the magnetic field change through the coil.
  • There is a suggestion to ensure the multimeter is set to AC current rather than DC, as the experiment involves changing magnetic fields.
  • One participant questions whether the magnetic field through the coil changes significantly between magnets and suggests that a linear change in magnetic flux is necessary for inducing a DC current.
  • Ashish attempts various configurations, including using a load resistor and adjusting magnet placement, but reports no improvement in current readings.
  • Another participant raises the possibility that the coil windings may be short-circuited, questioning the resistance of the coil.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various suggestions and hypotheses regarding the experiment, but no consensus is reached on the cause of the observed phenomenon or the best approach to resolve the issues.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the implications of the coil's resistance or the specific configurations of the magnets, leaving some assumptions unaddressed. The discussion includes unresolved technical details regarding the measurements and configurations used in the experiment.

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Hi Experts,

I'm doing an experiment of Electromagnetic Induction (producing current by changing magnetic field i.e. by circulating magnetic wheel of N52 Neodymium Magnets around copper coil),

but what i found

when the speed of wheel is HIGH, the Output Current is LOW (in range of .02 microAmp) &

when wheel is about to stop i.e. when its speed is LOW, the Output Current is HIGH (in range of .11 microAmp)

check the video once (),

Kindly suggest where I'm doing wrong or what i need to change in my experiment, because as per Faraday's law, more frequent change in magnetic field produces more current, but its not seen in my experimentKindly help

Thanks in Advance
Ashish
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Hello Erashish, :welcome:

Two questions:
  1. Are the magnets oriented alternately north-south south-north etc ?
  2. Is the meter range set to AC current (and not DC current :smile:) ?
 
BvU said:
Hello Erashish, :welcome:

Two questions:
  1. Are the magnets oriented alternately north-south south-north etc ?
  2. Is the meter range set to AC current (and not DC current :smile:) ?
Hi BvU,

1. No magnets are not oriented alternately, they are aligned at same orientation i.e. North-North-North-North at the outer end of circle.
2. Meter is set to DC Current.
 
1. So does the magnetic field through the coil change very much from one magnet passing to the next ? Could that be improved ?
2. Change in the magnetic field causes induced emf. ##{ \varepsilon} = -{d\Phi\over dt}## or something . To get a DC current, ##\Phi## would have to grow linearly and that's not what you can produce !
 
So what you suggest, what changes i should do, to make the project working ?
 
1. What would cause more change in ##\Phi##: north north north etc. passing by or north south north south north ?
2. Try AC volt instead of DC current setting on the meter

In fact I had hoped that these suggestions would have been obvious from the comments I made ...
 
I will try your both suggestion & let u know the result soon,

Thanks :)
 
Hi,

I tried putting multimeter at AC volts, but its showing zero reading, maybe because output voltage is too low, as output DC current was in microampere.

I tried with putting load (resistor) at the copper wire ends, to measure output voltage or current, but condition remains the same.

I also tried to put magnets close to each other with opposite polarity, but still condition is same.

Kindly suggest, if anything else i can do, to make experiment working properly.

Thanks in Advance
Ashish
http://lightenmyways.blogspot.com
 
Well, that was the best I could do. Only other thing I can think of is that the windings of the coil are short-circuited. Does the resistance of the coil correspond to the full length of the wire used ?
If you can find an analog ##\mu##A meter you could try that.
 

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