Electromagnetism & Higgs Boson

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the Higgs boson, gauge bosons, and the mass of particles, particularly focusing on whether the Higgs boson is responsible for the mass of electrons and other force carriers. The scope includes theoretical aspects of particle physics and the standard model.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether gauge bosons that have mass were originally supposed to be massless, suggesting a connection to the Higgs boson or field.
  • One participant asserts that the existence of the Higgs field is crucial for the mass of the electron, but notes that the underlying reasons for the electron's mass and its specific value remain unknown.
  • Another participant provides a qualified affirmation regarding the mass of gauge bosons being linked to the Higgs boson, while also stating that the mass difference in a charged versus discharged battery is not attributable to the Higgs boson.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the fundamental reasons for particle masses, with some agreement on the role of the Higgs field but differing views on specific claims, particularly about the mass of batteries and gauge bosons.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about mass and the definitions of terms like "massless" and "massive," as well as the unresolved nature of why particles have the masses they do.

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I want to get caught up in this discovery and of course it would more "legitimate" if I better understood what the standard model is.So I'll ask some slightly random "Yes/No" questions.

Are the "Gauge Bosons/Force Carriers" that have mass "supposed to be" mass-less? But from observation/experiments/math it's "seen" they have a mass. Is this where the Higgs boson (or field?) comes in?A fully charged battery has more mass than a fully discharged battery. Is that mass attributable to the Higgs Boson?

Is the Higgs Boson why an electron has a mass?

Unless you think it would help me, just yes/no answers would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Is the Higgs Boson why an electron has a mass?
An electron has a mass because the Higgs FIELD exists AND (...)

No one knows why the electron has a mass, or why its mass has the value it has. But it is clear that if the Higgs field did not exist, the electron would be massless.
 
Cool stuff!

Thanks for that reply Bill.

Exactly the depth I was looking for. Maybe down the road those why questions will be answered.
 
nitsuj said:
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Are the "Gauge Bosons/Force Carriers" that have mass "supposed to be" mass-less? But from observation/experiments/math it's "seen" they have a mass. Is this where the Higgs boson (or field?) comes in?

With qualifications: yes.

nitsuj said:
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A fully charged battery has more mass than a fully discharged battery. Is that mass attributable to the Higgs Boson?

With qualifications: no.
 

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