Electron double slit experiment in bubble chamber

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The discussion centers on the implications of the double slit experiment when conducted in a bubble chamber, specifically addressing the interaction of electrons with the measurement system and the resulting wave function collapse. Participants explore various configurations of the bubble chamber in relation to the slits, questioning whether interference patterns can be observed. The conversation references the work of Afshar, highlighting the challenges posed by quantum mechanics' ontological duplicity and the difficulty in achieving a clear interpretation of results due to the existence of multiple theoretical perspectives, including the Copenhagen interpretation and Many-Worlds Interpretation (MWI).

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We will not get an interference right?

Why? Because the electron interacts with the system? Or the "measurement" forces the wave function to collapse? What if we put a black cloth on the chamber and only see the photographic film?

What if we place the chamber before the slits. What if we bring it infinitesimally close to the slits? What if we place the chamber after the slits?
 
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You know, the bubble really aren't there until you look at them, right?
 
sai2020 said:
We will not get an interference right?

Why? Because the electron interacts with the system? Or the "measurement" forces the wave function to collapse? What if we put a black cloth on the chamber and only see the photographic film?

What if we place the chamber before the slits. What if we bring it infinitesimally close to the slits? What if we place the chamber after the slits?

A nice try at observing the path of the electron to see which side of the slit it goes through (I gather? - chamber before, vacuum, slit vacuum, chamber after) but this is not accurate enough for this purpose and you would have to have some way of getting an accuarate velocity of the electron at the double slit point.

The real problem is not finding a way to perform a which way experiment, this has already been done by Afshar (www.irims.org/quant-ph/030503/ - see also New Scientist article July 24 2004 issue).

The problem is that the QM formalism's ontological duplicity makes it almost impossible to get a clear interpretation.

The interpretation from a real physical perspective is clear!

But QM allows for non-physical perspectives such as TI, MWI, Copenhagen. Once one takes anyone of these perspectives which remove physicality and locality to the photon or electron particle (i.e no longer a localized particle with a localized radius and a real path in space and time, but a mathematical spread out over space wavelike emorphous entitiy with whatever properties one choses like the ability to be both dead and alive at the same time), they all can accommodate themselves to any experiment.
 

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