Electron in a One Dimensional Infinite Potential Well

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The problem involves an electron confined in a one-dimensional infinite potential well, specifically a tube of length 2 meters. The questions focus on calculating the energy difference between the ground state and the first excited state, as well as determining the quantum number for a measurable energy difference of 1 eV between adjacent energy levels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the energy level formula but questions the correctness of their calculations, particularly regarding the mass of the electron and the resulting energy values. They express confusion over the interpretation of the energy difference in part B.
  • Some participants clarify that the energy difference of 1 eV is measurable, contrasting it with the much smaller energy difference calculated in part A.
  • Another participant expresses difficulty in solving part B, questioning how to manipulate the equation to find the quantum number, and notes issues with obtaining a quadratic form.
  • Further attempts to derive the quantum number lead to confusion over the signs and the resulting values, with one participant indicating they arrived at an impossible negative result.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback and clarifications on the calculations and interpretations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of units and the nature of the equations involved, but no consensus or resolution has been reached regarding the specific calculations or the interpretation of part B.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also a noted confusion regarding the interpretation of energy differences and the implications of the quantum number calculations.

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Homework Statement


An electron is confined to a narrow evacuated tube. The tube, which has length of 2m functions as a one dimensional infinite potential well.

A: What is the energy difference between the electrons ground state and the first excitied state.

B: What quantum number n would the energy difference between adjacent energy levels be 1eV - which is measurable, unlike the result of part A.

Homework Equations


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<br /> E_n=\frac{\hbar^2 \pi^2 n^2}{2mL^2}<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


I must not be using the equation correctly, as I am getting values many many orders of magnitudes out. Is m in the equation the mass of the particle? So in this case the mass of the electron?<br /> E_1=\frac{\hbar^2 \pi^2 n^2}{2mL^2}= \frac{(1.055 \times 10^{-34})^2 \pi^2 }{2(9.109 \times 10^{-31})2^2} = 1.507 \times 10^{-38} J \\<br /> E_2=\frac{\hbar^2 \pi^2 n^2}{2mL^2}= \frac{(1.055 \times 10^{-34})^2 \pi^2 }{2(9.109 \times 10^{-31})} = 6.03 \times 10^{-38} J \\<br /> \Delta E = E_2 - E_1 = 4.523 \times 10^{-38} J = 2.82 \times 10^{-19} eV<br />

For B: I got a quantum number of around 3.5 billion :D, so I have to be doing something wrong. Also my main question for part B was the bit where it carries on with "- which is measurable, unlike the result of A", I have no idea what they mean by that, so if anyone does I would really appreciate it.

Thanks :)
 
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The answer looks good. 2 meters is just an extremely wide potential well.
An energy difference of 1 eV is measurable, an energy difference of 10-19 eV (for an electron) is not.
 
mfb said:
The answer looks good. 2 meters is just an extremely wide potential well.
An energy difference of 1 eV is measurable, an energy difference of 10-19 eV (for an electron) is not.

Oh right, ok thanks. Because part B was talking about 1eV I thought my answer was way way off.

And thanks for clarifying the wording on part B, that makes sense. Thanks :)
 
I am really stuck on part B now, I just can't see how it can be solved. (Im using the other version of the equation with h instead of h-bar)

<br /> (1.602 \times 10^{-19})=\frac{h^2n_1^2}{8mL^2} - \frac{h^2n_2^2}{8mL^2}<br />

So obviously the RHS has to be equal to the charge of the electron, but I just cannot see how I can solve this. Any help/advice/feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks :)
 
Don't forget the units.

You have calculated the energy levels already, for adjacent energy levels n1 is just 1 larger than n2 (using your sign convention). This is a quadratic equation.
 
mfb said:
Don't forget the units.

You have calculated the energy levels already, for adjacent energy levels n1 is just 1 larger than n2 (using your sign convention). This is a quadratic equation.

I can t seem to get a quadratic, as the way I am doing it the n^2 cancel. What I have done is below

<br /> 1eV=\frac{h^2n_1^2}{8mL^2} - \frac{h^2n_2^2}{8mL^2} \\<br /> 1eV=\frac{h^2(n_2+1)^2}{8mL^2} - \frac{h^2n_2^2}{8mL^2} \\<br /> 1eV=\frac{h^2(n_2^2+2n_2+1)}{8mL^2} - \frac{h^2n_2^2}{8mL^2} \\<br /> 1eV=\frac{h^2(n_2^2+2n_2+1)8mL^2-h^2n_28mL^2}{8mL^2} \\<br /> (1.602 \times 10^{-19})8mL^2=h^2(n_2^2+2n_2+1)8mL^2-h^2n_28mL^2 \\<br /> (1.602 \times 10^{-19})8mL^2=h8mL^2n_2^2+2h^28mL^2n_2+h^28ml^2-h^2n_28mL^2 \\<br /> (1.602 \times 10^{-19})8mL^2=2h^28mL^2n_2 + h^28mL^2\\<br /> <br /> n_2=\frac{(1.602 \times 10^{-19})h^28ml^2-h^28mL^2}{2h^2mL^2}<br />

Which if I have calculated it correctly comes out to negative one half, which is impossible.

EDIT: After using wolfram alpha, and sorting out an error, I got the result of n to be equal to the charge on the electron, which is also wrong.
 
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Ah right, the equation becomes linear. Well, just makes it easier.

Something with the 8mL^2 went wrong in the fourth line.
 

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