Electrons and simple/complex molecules.

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electrons in atoms and molecules, particularly considering hypothetical scenarios where electrons cease motion. Participants explore the implications of electron behavior in the context of neutron stars and the formation of neutrons from protons and electrons.

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  • One participant questions the implications of all electrons stopping their motion and whether this would affect molecular formation.
  • Another participant asserts that the initial question is nonsensical, suggesting a misunderstanding of electron behavior in atoms.
  • A different participant introduces the concept of neutron stars, explaining how extreme gravity can lead to the combination of electrons and protons into neutrons, resulting in a dense state of matter.
  • A later reply challenges the explanation regarding neutron formation, specifically questioning the conservation of spin in the process described.

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Participants express differing views on the initial question's validity and the explanation of neutron formation, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the nature of electron motion and the conditions in neutron stars that are not fully explored or defined, leading to potential gaps in understanding.

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Hello, I was just taking a shower when this question came upon my mind, what would happen if all the electrons stopped their motion?
And, I don't know, but when molecules are created, wouldn't it cut off a path of an electron from the side where atoms have been combined?
 
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your question is nonsensical because electrons don't cruise around atoms and molecules as planets orbit stars for example. that's probably why nobody answered your question.
 
maybe the answer he's looking for is this...

In neutron stars, their own gravity is so large that it overcomes the forces keeping protons/electrons apart and the electrons/protons combine to form neutrons. You end up with a big soup of neutrons...no electron clouds so there's almost no "empty" space...you end up with some of the most dense matter in the universe save from black holes.
 
topside said:
maybe the answer he's looking for is this...

In neutron stars, their own gravity is so large that it overcomes the forces keeping protons/electrons apart and the electrons/protons combine to form neutrons.

Does it really? Your spin isn't conserved. 1/2 +/- 1/2 does not equal to 1/2.

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