Electrostatic Equillibrium Question

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The problem involves three identical Styrofoam balls suspended in equilibrium, forming an equilateral triangle. Participants are tasked with determining the common charge on each ball based on the forces acting on them, including tension and electrostatic force.

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on one ball using free body diagrams and equations for tension and electrostatic force. Some participants question the assumption of the angles being 60 degrees and suggest that geometry is necessary to find the correct angles. Others explore the use of the cosine law to determine angles in the isosceles triangle formed by the setup.

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Participants are actively discussing the geometry involved in the problem, with some providing insights into the relationship between the angles and the vertical. There is recognition that the angles initially assumed may not be correct, and suggestions are being made to clarify the geometric relationships.

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There is an indication that the angles made by the strings with the vertical are critical to solving the problem, and participants are exploring various geometric approaches to derive these angles accurately.

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Hey,

Here is my question:
Three identical small Styrofoam balls (m = 2.05 g) are suspended from a fixed point by three nonconducting threads, each with a length of 45.5 cm and with negligible mass. At equilibrium the three balls form an equilateral triangle with sides of 28.4 cm. What is the common charge q carried by each ball?

This is what I have done.

I made my diagram 3d and did a FBD for 1 ball (Tension up and at an angle, mg going down, and Fe going to the left) As a result, solving for the Forces in the x-direction I had
Ftcos60 = Fe
and solving in the y direction
Ftsin60 = mg

I divided EFy by EFx to get rid of the tension force and then solved for Fe. I then put that into the coulomb law equation and made both q charges the same so it was q^2 and solved for q. I am not getting the right answer though. I think my assumption of the angles being 60 may be wrong. Can anybody help out?

Thanks
 
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The angle that the strings make with the vertical is not 60 degrees (nor is it 30 degrees!).

You're going to have to do some geometry to figure out the angle but it is simplified by noting the triangle with vertices at each of the charges is equilateral and the triangles with the vertices at the support and pairs of points is isosceles. It may also help to note that the center of the equilateral triangles is located 1/3 of the way from the base to the opposite vertex.
 
I tried using the cosine law, and for the isosoleces triangle I am getting a top angle of 36.4degrees and the two bottom ones as 71.8degrees, but I am still not getting the right answer...Am I still doing something wrong?
 
What you are looking for is not the angle between a pair of strings but the angle between the vertical and a string.
 
So would I just divide the 36.4 by 2?
 
The easiest way to do the geometry is to first find the radius of a circle in which the equilateral triangle can be inscribed. Then you can find the angle the string makes with the vertical using the ratio of that radius to the length of the string.
 

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