Electrostatic Potential for Two Concentric Cylindrical Shells

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The problem involves two concentric hollow conducting cylindrical shells with specified charge densities and radii. The task is to determine the electrostatic potential for various regions, sketch the potential as a function of distance, and analyze the potential difference and kinetic energy of a charge moving between the shells.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the electrostatic potential and its dependence on the distance from the axis of the cylinders, with some attempting to apply formulas for point charges and others recognizing the need for adjustments due to the cylindrical geometry.
  • Questions arise regarding the correct equations to use for calculating the potential in different regions (inside and outside the shells) and the implications of the electric field in those regions.
  • Some participants suggest using Gauss' law to find the electric field before determining the potential.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations and approaches being explored. Some participants have provided partial calculations and insights, while others express confusion about the correct methods and assumptions. There is no explicit consensus yet on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need to clarify the potential in regions where rb, as well as the implications of the charge distributions on the electric field and potential. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the cylindrical geometry compared to point charge scenarios.

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Homework Statement


Two very long hollow conducting cylindrical shells are situated along the x-axis. The shells are concentric and have negligible thickness. The inner shell has a radius a and a linear charge density +lambda, while the outer shell has a radius b and a linear charge density -lambda. Take the zero of electrostatic potential to be at r = 0. The coordinate r measures the distance from the common axis of the two cylinders in a region far from either end.

a) Determine the electrostatic potential V(r) for all values of r
b) Sketch V(r) vs. r for all r
c) Determine the potential difference DeltaV between r=a and r=b
d) If a positive charge +q is released from rest at r=a, what will be its kinetic energy when it reaches the outer cylinder at r=b.


Homework Equations


V(r)=q/4piE0r
Delta V=Vb-Va=q/4PiE0*(1/rb-1/ra)
Ke=1/2mv^2
U=kq1q2/r
KEf=Ui


The Attempt at a Solution


a) at r=a
V=q/4piE0a

at r=b
V=q/4piE0b

b) as the radius increases the potential goes down. It starts at some positive y value and ends at some negative y value.

c)Delta V=Vb-Va=q/4PiE0*(1/b-1/a)

d) U=kq1q2/a
1/2mv^2=kq1q2/r
v^2=2kq1q2/mr
v=(2kq1q2/mr)^1/2
 
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I'm just wanting to know if i got this right
 
sweetdion said:

Homework Statement


Two very long hollow conducting cylindrical shells are situated along the x-axis. The shells are concentric and have negligible thickness. The inner shell has a radius a and a linear charge density +lambda, while the outer shell has a radius b and a linear charge density -lambda. Take the zero of electrostatic potential to be at r = 0. The coordinate r measures the distance from the common axis of the two cylinders in a region far from either end.

Homework Equations


V(r)=q/4piE0r

The formula you quoted refers to a point charge. These are very long cylinders.

ehild
 
V(r)= 1/4piE0 Int dq/r
 
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Part C)

EA=Qenc/E0
E=lamda/PirE0
Delta V=-lamda/PiE0 Int dr/r
Delta V= lamda/PiE0 ln(b/a)
 
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You have started part C well, but it is still wrong.

The first questions were:

"a) Determine the electrostatic potential V(r) for all values of r
b) Sketch V(r) vs. r for all r"

So what is the potential for r<a? for r>b?

ehild
 
what equation am i supposed to use to figure out the potential? so confused.

V (r) = 1/4PiE0 * Int dq/r ?
 
Find the electric field first. What is it inside the inner cylinder? Between a and b? for r>b? Use Gauss' law.
For r<0, the enclosed charge is 0. If a<r<b, the enclosed charge is +lambda *Length of the cylinder. For a cylinder with r>b, the enclosed charge is 0. E is the negative gradient of the potential. What is the potential like if E=0?

ehild
 
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