Electrostatics problem with pith balls hung using threads

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving charges and masses arranged on threads and the optimal angle between the threads. The solution given is option (d) but the asker is unsure and asks for clarification. The responder explains that without gravity, the optimal arrangement is a tetrahedron rather than a square, which gives a larger angle and more nearest neighbors.
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Sunil Simha
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Homework Statement



Please open the attachment for the question

Homework Equations



1)coulomb's law

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm at a loss regarding what to do. Upon reading the question (ignoring the figure), I assumed that the charges will form a square and thus the angle between two adjacent threads will depend on the length of the thread. But the solution key given to me said option (d) was correct. Please help.
 
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That problem statement is ill. The angle depends on the charges and masses - for negligible charges, it will be nearly zero, which is not covered in any answer.
Without or with negligible gravity, the masses will arrange like a tetrahedron, and d is correct. But that requires at least one charge to point "upwards" relative to the point where they are attached.
 
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mfb said:
Without or with negligible gravity, the masses will arrange like a tetrahedron, and d is correct.

Without gravity, won't they get arranged as a square in the plane of the ceiling to which the threads are attached?

Thanks in advance mfb
 
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As far as I know, a square is not the ideal arrangement, a tetrahedron is better.
 
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But with a tetrahedral arrangement, won't one of the threads slacken? Also, could you please explain how the tetrahedral arrangement is favored to the square one where the balls are far apart from each other and thus the system has the lowest potential energy.
 
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won't one of the threads slacken?
Electrostatic repulsion keeps it there.

With a tetrahedral arrangement, the angle is somewhere at ~110°, compared to ~90° for the square. On the other hand, you have 3 nearest neighbors instead of 2, so it would need a calculation to compare both arrangements.
 

1. What is electrostatics?

Electrostatics is the branch of physics that deals with the study of electric charges at rest. It involves the interaction between electrically charged particles and the electric field they create.

2. How are pith balls used in electrostatics experiments?

Pith balls are lightweight, electrically insulating balls that are commonly used in electrostatics experiments. They are hung on threads and can be easily charged by rubbing them with a cloth or other material. Their movement in response to electric fields is used to demonstrate the principles of electrostatics.

3. Why are threads used to hang pith balls in electrostatics experiments?

Threads are used to hang pith balls in electrostatics experiments because they are good insulators of electricity. This prevents the pith balls from losing their charge to the surroundings and ensures that their movement is solely due to the electric field they are placed in.

4. How can the electrostatic force between two charged pith balls be calculated?

The electrostatic force between two charged pith balls can be calculated using Coulomb's law, which states that the force between two point charges is directly proportional to the product of their charges and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

5. What are some real-life applications of electrostatics?

Electrostatics has many real-life applications, including inkjet printing, air filters, and electrostatic precipitators used in power plants to remove pollutants from the air. It also plays a crucial role in the functioning of electronic devices, such as computer screens and photocopiers.

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