Elementary questions relating to Newton's laws of motion

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When a cannonball hits a wall that breaks, the wall does exert an equal and opposite force on the cannonball, consistent with Newton's third law of motion. The force exerted by the cannonball on the wall is indeed the amount necessary to break it, rather than the total force it could exert. For the wall to break and still cause the cannonball to rebound, it would need to exert a sufficient reaction force to change the cannonball's momentum. The discussion emphasizes the role of impulse, where the duration of force application affects momentum transfer. Ultimately, while the wall exerts an equal force, it may not provide enough impulse to completely stop the cannonball.
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i) If a wall breaks when it gets hit by a cannonball, did the wall exert an equal and opposite force on the cannonball?

ii) Would the force exerted by the cannonball on the wall only be the amount that was needed to break it?

iii) Hypothetically, is it possible for the wall to break but also cause the cannonball to rebound?
 
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chipotleaway said:
i) If a wall breaks when it gets hit by a cannonball, did the wall exert an equal and opposite force on the cannonball?

ii) Would the force exerted by the cannonball on the wall only be the amount that was needed to break it?

iii) Hypothetically, is it possible for the wall to break but also cause the cannonball to rebound?
Good questions. What do you think?
 
Doc Al said:
Good questions. What do you think?

i) I think it does and

ii) I also think that the reaction force from the wall would be equal to the force needed to break it. Like if you were to drop a bowling ball on a table, the table wouldn't feel the entire weight of the ball before it broke (assuming the strength is less than the weight of the ball)

iii) Hmm...the wall would have to have sufficient strength to exert a reaction force big enough to change the momentum of the cannonball...I'll try to work out the details later, heh.
 
To answer your question, I would think about impulse. The longer you exert a force, the greater the momentum. So to break the wall, the cannonball need to exert some amount of force for a period of time. Then, once the wall break and rocks flies in every directions, it's a work problem (force times displacement). Hence, the wall does exert the same force back but not enough impulse to stop the cannonball.
 
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