What Happens to Massless Light at the End of Its Existence?

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The discussion centers on the nature of light, specifically photons, and their classification as matter or non-matter. Participants explore the implications of photons being massless and question what occurs to light at the end of its existence, touching on concepts of energy transfer and potential connections to dark matter.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how light, made of massless photons, can be considered matter, given that matter is defined as having mass and occupying space.
  • Another participant clarifies that photons do not meet the criteria for matter since they have no mass and do not occupy space, suggesting that at the end of their existence, photons transfer energy and momentum to charged matter.
  • One participant introduces the concept of dark matter without elaboration.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of "heavy photons," suggesting the existence of photons with a very tiny mass, though this is not further developed.
  • A later reply expresses confusion regarding the previous two posts, indicating a lack of clarity or consensus on those points.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of light and its classification. There are competing views regarding the implications of massless photons and the introduction of concepts like dark matter and heavy photons, which remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of matter and the properties of photons are not fully explored. The discussion includes speculative ideas about heavy photons and dark matter without clear definitions or connections to the main topic.

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if light is made of photons yet it has no mass, the particle is massless how can it be matter, as matter is defined as having mass and taking up space? there must be an end to light, it must brake down, i understand energy can not be destroyed only converted, what happens to light at the end of it life??
 
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Hi ianpaul12345, welcome to PF!

As you say, the usual definition of matter is something which has mass and takes up space. Photons have no mass and do not take up space, so they are not matter.

At the end of it's life light does work on matter with charge, transferring it's energy and momentum to the matter.
 
dark matter?
 
heavy photons,But a photon with a very tiny "in between" mass
 
Sorry, I cannot understand those last two posts.
 

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