Energy conservation in an alpha-scattering experiment

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The forum discussion centers on calculating the distance of closest approach in an alpha-scattering experiment using a 6 MeV alpha particle. The initial kinetic energy (KE) of the alpha particle is 6 x 10^6 eV, and the potential energy (PE) is calculated using the formula PE = kq1q2/d, where k = 9 x 10^9 N m²/C², q1 = 2e (corrected charge of the alpha particle), and q2 = 79e (charge of the gold nucleus). The correct distance of closest approach is determined to be 2 x 10^(-14) m. The primary errors identified were in the charge value of the alpha particle and potential unit inconsistencies.

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In scattering experiment, find distance of closest approach if a 6 MeV alpha particle is used

2. The attempt at a solution
initially KE of alpha particle is 6 x 10^6 x e joules and 0 PE, finally its PE is kq1q2/d, k=9 x 10^9, q1=4e, q2=Ze=79e (assuming gold), d is distance of closest approach, e is charge on electron. Plugging in the values gives an incorrect answer. The correct answer (far from it) is 2 x 10^(-14) m. Is there a mistake I'm making?
 
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Which answer did you get and can you show the steps?
At closest approach both the alpha particle and the gold nucleus will move a bit (conservation of momentum!) but this is a small effect.
 
Your approach is correct and I get your “correct” answer. I see only 1 definite mistake, the charge of an alpha particle isn’t 4. However I suspect you big problem is units. You have k in SI units and PE in MeV and two charges in electron charges. I’m sure you converted some of them, but did you get all of them? Is your answer off by 10^19? If so, you missed one.
 
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Anyway, I'll be back in a while and show my work
 
Cutter Ketch said:
Your approach is correct and I get your “correct” answer. I see only 1 definite mistake, the charge of an alpha particle isn’t 4. However I suspect you big problem is units. You have k in SI units and PE in MeV and two charges in electron charges. I’m sure you converted some of them, but did you get all of them? Is your answer off by 10^19? If so, you missed one.
Right, its 2e. Thank you for pointing it out, I'll try that again
 
mfb said:
Which answer did you get and can you show the steps?
At closest approach both the alpha particle and the gold nucleus will move a bit (conservation of momentum!) but this is a small effect.
After correcting the charge, I'll redo my calculations and post here within the next 24 hrs
 

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