Energy expended during static exercises

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the energy or power expended during static exercises, such as static hangs from rings or handstands. Participants explore the relationship between impulse, energy, and work performed during these activities, considering both mechanical and biochemical perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to relate impulse to total energy or work performed during static exercises.
  • Another participant states that according to classical mechanics, zero displacement results in zero work being performed.
  • It is suggested that during static exercises, the efficiency is zero, implying energy is expended to do no work.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the energy expended to resist gravity, noting difficulties in calculating gravitational potential energy.
  • Another participant claims that no energy is required to resist gravity, using the example of a table holding a book indefinitely without energy expenditure.
  • A later reply introduces a bioenergetics approach, suggesting that energy consumption during static exercises can be measured through oxygen consumption, which serves as a proxy for energy use.
  • It is mentioned that metabolic equivalents (METs) are used to quantify energy expenditure, with a reference to how exercise machines estimate METs based on user weight.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of energy expenditure during static exercises, with some asserting that no work is done while others highlight the biochemical energy consumption involved. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of the biochemical processes involved in muscle activity during static holds, as well as the complexities of applying standard physics to living systems.

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Trying to wrap my head around how to calculate the energy/power expended when doing static exercises (i.e. static hangs from rings or handstands etc.) for various intervals...

How do I relate the impulse (between myself and the rings or surface) to the total energy or work performed in say calories?

Thanks in advance.
Eric
 
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Eric vdm said:
(i.e. static hangs from rings or handstands etc.)

Work = F x s (s = displacement)
since there is no displacement, there is no force and therefore no work is being performed

I'm not qualified to answer what biochemical actions /reactions are occurring in the muscles
maybe some one else can answer that
 
During static exercises the efficiency is zero. So energy is expended to do 0 work.
 
Thanks for your reply's.

I understand in classical mechanics zero displacement = zero work.

What I don't get is the energy expended in order to resit gravity alone.

I tried to calculate the gravitational potential energy between myself and the center of the earth...(G.m1.m2/R) but the answer is senseless.

Confusing o_O
 
No energy is required to resist gravity. E.g. a table can hold a book against gravity indefinitely using no energy.
 
Here is an applet: http://www.juststand.org/OnlineToolbox/tabid/637/Default.aspx

This applet takes a bioenergetics approach. Straight mechanics, like @Dale cites, is correct if you were a dead blob. Most of us are at least conscious blobs. Humans use food energy, consume oxygen, and generate CO2. Simply doing zero movement.

This energy consumption is typically stated in exercise physiology and medicine in terms of units called a MET, or metabolic equivalent.. To calculate this using standard Physics is complex to say the least. So measuring oxygen consumption works as a very easily measured and pretty accurate proxy for this energy use.
There are standards for determining this value, so you can use tables to get an approximate value.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_equivalent.

So, simply sitting still, for a 60kg human, uses ~1 MET. Illness or trauma affects this value, for example.
Exercise machines in gyms, like treadmills, often have an option to enter your weight and show a running estimate of METs as you exercise. Example: Prescribed exercise may expect you to shoot for 3.0 METs, so if you exercise at that rate for one hour you have 3 * 60 = 180 MET minutes.
 
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