Energy & Fields: Uncovering the Mysteries of Modern Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between matter, energy, and fields in modern physics. Participants explore concepts related to how matter produces fields, the nature of gravity, and the implications of black holes on gravitational fields. The scope includes theoretical and conceptual inquiries into physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether matter must radiate energy to produce fields and seeks clarification on the source of this energy.
  • Another participant suggests that referring to field quanta may simplify the discussion, but acknowledges it is not strictly necessary.
  • A question is posed about how black holes can produce gravitational effects despite their event horizons preventing anything from escaping.
  • One viewpoint suggests that gravity may be mediated by massless gauge bosons, indicating a need for a unified theory of gravity and quantum physics.
  • Another participant asserts that energy is only required to accelerate a body, not to move it, and seeks clarification on this idea.
  • There is a contention regarding whether fields exist independently of matter, with one participant arguing that fields describe interactions between matter.
  • A later reply provides an example involving a system of charges, explaining that moving charges requires work and results in changes to the energy of the field and the generation of electromagnetic waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether energy is required for matter to produce fields and the nature of gravitational interactions, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific definitions of energy and fields, and there are unresolved questions about the nature of gravity and its relationship with quantum physics.

zonde
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Hi!

After considering some aspects of modern physics I found out that there are some pieces that does not fit in my mind very well.
So I'd like to ask some questions here.
Is it right that for matter to produce fields it requires to radiate out energy?
And if yes then from where comes this energy?
 
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Are you referring to Field quanta's?
 
Not necessarily
But maybe for simplification of discussion it will be better to refer to quantas.
 
Maybe another question.
Gravitation is propagating at speed of light.
Nothing moving at light speed that is inside the event horizon of black hole can get outside it.
Question is how black holes can produce gravitation around them?
 
It depends on your description of gravity, if gravity is mediated by massless gauge bosons, or not.

Black holes can not be described, as of yet, by quantum physics. That is why the hottest field of reserach today is to fuse gravuty and quantum physics, one of these trials is String theory.

Dont ask new, unrelated, questions in the same thread. It is better to make new one or search for old ones in order to keep the forum clean.
 
Is it right that for matter to produce fields it requires to radiate out energy?

No it is not. Only when you move the body, the surrounding field starts to wiggle and the energy that was used to move the body is carried away in the waves that move through the field.
 
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Only when you move the body, the surrounding field starts to wiggle and the energy that was used to move the body is carried away in the waves that move through the field.
Energy is required to accelerate body but not to move it. Can you please clarify your idea?
 
Clarification: nonuniform, accelerated motion of the body.
 
It sounds like you are saying that fields exist on their own but are not produced by matter. Does not sound very sensible to me.
 
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Why is that not sensible to you?
 
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Because fields describe interactions between matter that maintains it's intensity and orientation relative to the interacting parts. So fields look like continuous stream of something and not like something that is altered time by time.
I hope that this description makes sense.
 
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zonde said:
Hi!

After considering some aspects of modern physics I found out that there are some pieces that does not fit in my mind very well.
So I'd like to ask some questions here.
Is it right that for matter to produce fields it requires to radiate out energy?
And if yes then from where comes this energy?
Yes. E.g. suppose you have a system of charges which is initially at rest. In general there will exist a static eletric field in the region in and around the system. If you try to wiggle some of the charges then it will require yo to do some work on the system. The energy that you expel in wiggling the charges will go into the kinetic energy of the charges, the change in the energy of the field, the creation of magnetic fields and it will also generate and electromagnetic waves which will carry some of the energy away.

Pete
 

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