Energy quantization of oscillator

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The discussion revolves around the energy quantization of a simple pendulum, specifically focusing on calculating the allowed energy levels based on the pendulum's length, mass, and angular amplitude. The participants are exploring how to apply the quantization formula and the implications of the angular amplitude on the potential energy of the system.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between angular amplitude and potential energy, questioning how to incorporate the given amplitude into their calculations. There is an exploration of different equations for potential energy and the need for unit consistency.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on expressing potential energy in terms of the angle and using small angle approximations. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct formulas and unit conversions, with some participants successfully arriving at potential energy values while others seek clarification on their calculations.

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Homework Statement



A simple pendulum has a length equal to 0.6 m and has a bob that has a mass equal to 0.5 kg. The energy of this oscillator is quantized, and the allowed values of energy are given by En = (n + 1/2)hf0, where n is an integer and f0 is the frequency of the pendulum. Find n if the angular amplitude is 1.0°.

Homework Equations



En = (n + 1/2)hf0
f0=w(omega)/(2pi)

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm stuck at the beginning of finding out the total energy of the pendulum. I think I might have to use the equation U(x)=(1/2)m(w0)^2x^2 to find the energy but I get stuck with unknown values. My biggest question is what does the angular amplitude of 1 degree get used for. I don't think it can just be plugged into the equation as is for an amplitude. Any help on how to approach the problem would be much appreciated.
 
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Express the potential energy in terms of θ then expand it for small values of θ. The total energy of the oscillator is the potential energy at maximum displacement. That's where the 1 degree comes in.
 
Okay, so I'm using the equation U=(1/2)lw^2(theta)^2. I found this equation and I think the l in it stands for the length of the pendulum. So after doing the calculations I get the potential energy to be .0855 but my units are confusing me. Should theta be in radians or degrees and is this in fact what l stands for?
 
Yes, on both accounts. The angle must be expressed in radians and l is the length of the pendulum in meters. With these units, the energy should come out in Joules.
 
When I do the calculations, I get U=.00149 m/s^2. I do not know why I am missing units.
 
Show me the numbers you put in and your answer. The correct expression is

U = mglθ2/2.
 
I'm confused where you got mgl from, but using your formula I was able to get the correct answer
 
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Derive (or look up) the potential energy for a pendulum referenced to the lowest point of the motion (equilibrium position) in terms of the angle θ. Then use the small angle approximation for the cosine

cos\theta\approx1-\frac{\theta^{2}}{2}.
 

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