Engineering Physics: Job Market & Graduate School Info for HS Seniors

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The discussion centers on the considerations for high school seniors interested in pursuing a degree in physics or engineering physics, including job market prospects, graduate school options, and the differences between the two fields. It explores the implications of choosing engineering physics as an alternative to a traditional physics degree.

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  • Some participants suggest that a straight BS in physics is preferred for those intending to pursue graduate studies in physics, as it may better prepare students for advanced coursework.
  • Others note that engineering physics often involves more hands-on work and may include programming and experimentation, which could appeal to certain students.
  • There is a discussion about the variability of engineering physics programs across institutions, with some being more aligned with traditional engineering disciplines and others resembling physics degrees with engineering components.
  • Some participants argue that while an engineering physics degree may be more employable as a terminal bachelor's degree, employers may not specifically seek out engineering physics graduates.
  • A question is raised about the possibility of transferring from an engineering physics major to a physics major during undergraduate studies, with the response indicating that this typically depends on the institution's policies.

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Participants express differing views on the suitability of engineering physics as a pathway to graduate school in physics, with no consensus on the best approach for students considering their future careers.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific information about local job markets and the varying nature of engineering physics programs across different universities, which may affect preparedness for graduate studies.

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I am, currently, a senior in high school. I am interested in science and particularly in physics. So, I, naturally, want to major in physics when I go to University. But I'm not sure if I want to be a physicist when i grow up and I have also heard about how getting into academia is very hard and usually not possible. Is Engineering Physics a good alternative? How's the job market for a graduate in Engineering physics? Can I go to graduate school and major in physics if I get a bachelor's degree in Engineering Physics?
 
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Most job markets are local. You will be better advice from people familiar with your local job markets.

If you want to go to graduate school in physics, a straight BS in physics would be preferred to engineering physics. You will likely do better on the PGRE and be better prepared for graduate courses in Mechanics, E&M, Quantum Mechanics, and Statistical Mechanics.
 
Meron said:
I am, currently, a senior in high school. I am interested in science and particularly in physics. So, I, naturally, want to major in physics when I go to University. But I'm not sure if I want to be a physicist when i grow up and I have also heard about how getting into academia is very hard and usually not possible. Is Engineering Physics a good alternative? How's the job market for a graduate in Engineering physics? Can I go to graduate school and major in physics if I get a bachelor's degree in Engineering Physics?

The main difference I've noted between E. Physics and Physics is that the former involves more 'hands-on' work. Your course load may involve more programming, an emphasis on experimentation, or possibly even some work with machine tools or what I'm going to call device fabrication.
 
Meron said:
I am, currently, a senior in high school. I am interested in science and particularly in physics. So, I, naturally, want to major in physics when I go to University. But I'm not sure if I want to be a physicist when i grow up and I have also heard about how getting into academia is very hard and usually not possible. Is Engineering Physics a good alternative? How's the job market for a graduate in Engineering physics? Can I go to graduate school and major in physics if I get a bachelor's degree in Engineering Physics?

Engineering physics is another way of saying applied physics, it's typically part of engineering department. They call it engineering physics to have the program a part of the ABET accreditation scheme, although the programs can vary immensely between schools. Some programs are more like an engineering (EE ME CE) program with a minor in physics, while others are like a BS in physics with a minor in some field of engineering.

If you want to go to graduate school for applied physics, then engineering physics is the degree to seek. If you want to go to graduate school for physics, then it's really dependent on the EP program if you'd be adequately prepared or not. As an aside, it's always easier to go to graduate school in the program you got your bachelors in, so if you know you want to go to graduate school for physics, then get a physics bachelors.

The engineering physics degree would be more employable as a terminal bachelors, although no employer is actively seeking EP majors (or even know what they are more often than not). You'd be able to apply to jobs that specified entry level engineers that some of your course work covered. You could do the same with a bachelors in physics, but with much less success.
 
Student100 said:
Engineering physics is another way of saying applied physics, it's typically part of engineering department. They call it engineering physics to have the program a part of the ABET accreditation scheme, although the programs can vary immensely between schools. Some programs are more like an engineering (EE ME CE) program with a minor in physics, while others are like a BS in physics with a minor in some field of engineering.

If you want to go to graduate school for applied physics, then engineering physics is the degree to seek. If you want to go to graduate school for physics, then it's really dependent on the EP program if you'd be adequately prepared or not. As an aside, it's always easier to go to graduate school in the program you got your bachelors in, so if you know you want to go to graduate school for physics, then get a physics bachelors.

The engineering physics degree would be more employable as a terminal bachelors, although no employer is actively seeking EP majors (or even know what they are more often than not). You'd be able to apply to jobs that specified entry level engineers that some of your course work covered. You could do the same with a bachelors in physics, but with much less success.
Is it possible for me to transfer my major form EP to physics while I'm an undergraduate ?
 
Meron said:
Is it possible for me to transfer my major form EP to physics while I'm an undergraduate ?

It depends on the school you attend, typically you aren't "locked" into your major until the start of your third year.
 
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