Can entanglement occur in distant galaxies according to NRQM and QFT?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of entanglement in quantum mechanics (QM) and quantum field theory (QFT), particularly in relation to whether entangled states can occur between particles in distant galaxies. Participants explore the definitions, implications, and generation of entangled states, as well as the differences in treatment between NRQM and QFT.

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  • Some participants define entangled states as those that cannot be expressed as a product of states of subsystems, providing examples of product and entangled states.
  • There is a suggestion that while mathematically entanglement may not be complex, its physical implications are significant and arise from the probabilistic interpretation of quantum states.
  • One participant notes that non-relativistic QM can be formulated as a non-relativistic QFT, which aids in many-body theory, even when particle number is conserved.
  • Questions are raised about whether entangled states can be generated only locally or if they can also occur between distant particles, such as those in different galaxies.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the likelihood of entangled states forming between particles from distant galaxies, emphasizing that local processes are typically used to prepare entangled states.
  • Entanglement swapping is mentioned as a method that could potentially allow for the preparation of entangled pairs of particles that have never been in local contact.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the generation of entangled states, particularly regarding the possibility of entanglement occurring between distant particles. There is no consensus on whether entangled states can form between particles in distant galaxies.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions highlight the limitations of current understanding regarding the generation of entangled states across vast distances and the reliance on local processes for entanglement preparation.

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What is entanglement in QM and QFT?
I understood that it only corresponds to the concept of linear combination of states with multiple particles. Seeing lectures on YB it seems to me that it is something much deeper than that. What did I miss? How is it treated in QFT?
I am studying NRQM from the Griffiths book.
 
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What is entanglement in QM and QFT?
An entangled state is a state of a quantum system with multiple subsystems that cannot be expressed as a product of states of the subsystems.

For example, suppose we have two identical particles and we are considering their spins. A product state might be something like this:

$$
\psi_P = \ket{\uparrow}_1 \ket{\uparrow}_2
$$

An entangled state would be something like this:

$$
\psi_E = \ket{\uparrow}_1 \ket{\uparrow}_2 + \ket{\downarrow}_1 \ket{\downarrow}_2
$$

Note that there is no way to express ##\psi_E## as a product of a "1" ket and a "2" ket. It is a sum of multiple such products, but there is no way to express it as a single such product.
 
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accdd said:
What is entanglement in QM and QFT?
I understood that it only corresponds to the concept of linear combination of states with multiple particles.
Yes, that's correct.

accdd said:
Seeing lectures on YB it seems to me that it is something much deeper than that.
What did I miss?
Mathematically, there is nothing deep about entanglement. What you miss are physical consequences of that. The physical consequences arise when you ascribe a physical interpretation to those states, specifically the standard probabilistic interpretation.

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How is it treated in QFT?
The same way as in NRQM. (Except that now you can even have superpositions of states with different numbers of particles, but in the context of entanglement such superpositions are rarely relevant physically.)
 
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One should also note that you can formulate also non-relativistic QM as a non-relativistic QFT. This is of great advantage when it comes to many-body theory, even if in fact the particle number is conserved. The reason is that the QFT formalism (no matter whether it's relativistic or non-relativistic) takes care of the Bose-Einstein and Fermi-Dirac constraints of many-particle states.
 
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Can entangled states be generated only locally? For example if I have a particle that decays I know entangled particles can be generated.
Or can entangled states be generated even between distant particles? For example if I have one particle here and one on a distant galaxy, if I wait long enough, will an entangled state of both particles ever result?
 
It's not that easy, and it's extremely unlikely that two particles from far distant galaxies are entangled when we measure them.

Usually to prepare entangled quantum states (most easily it's done with photons) one uses some local process like parametric down conversion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_parametric_down-conversion

Nevertheless you can indeed prepare entangled pairs of particles which never have been in local contact with each other. One way is "entanglement swapping":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation#Entanglement_swapping
 
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If I wait long enough can two or more particles in distant galaxies end up in an entangled state?
 

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