Epsilon-Delta Limit in Two Variables

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating the limit of a function in two variables using the epsilon-delta method, specifically focusing on the limit as \( (x, y) \) approaches \( (a, b) \) for the function \( y \). The subject area is calculus, particularly the analysis of limits in multivariable functions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the epsilon-delta definition and its application to the limit problem. There are attempts to express the relationship between \( |y-b| \) and \( \delta \), with some questioning how to appropriately choose \( \delta \) based on the conditions given. Others express uncertainty about the sufficiency of their statements and seek clarification on the next steps.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the selection of \( \delta \) and its relationship to \( \epsilon \). There is a sense of collaborative exploration, though no explicit consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the epsilon-delta definition and are navigating the complexities of applying it to a limit involving two variables. There is mention of the need for clarity in the definitions and the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement



Show (using the epsilon-delta method) that the ##\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow a\\y\rightarrow b}} y = b ##

Homework Equations



Epsilon-Delta Definition

##\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow a\\y\rightarrow b}} f(x,y) = L ##
means that for every ##\epsilon## > 0, there exists a number ##\delta##>0 such that:
##|f(x,y)-L| < \epsilon ## whenever ##0 < \sqrt{(x-a)^2+(y-a)^2} < \delta ##


The Attempt at a Solution



I totally get what the epsilon-delta definition is and what it means, but I'm not so sure how to go about showing this limit exists.
My textbook has only one example and it's really badly described.

My understanding is that I have
##|y-b| < \epsilon## when ## \sqrt{x^2+y^2} < \delta ##
So I can say ## y≤\sqrt{x^2+y^2} ##
So ##|y-b| ≤ \sqrt{x^2+y^2}##?

But I don't get where to go from here. What should my endgoal be?
 
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So, if \sqrt{(x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2} &lt; \delta, what can you say about how big \sqrt{(y-b)^2} is?
 
##\sqrt{(y-b)^2} < \sqrt{(y-a)^2+(x-a)^2}##
So
##\sqrt{(y-b)^2} < \delta##
But I don't understand what I'm supposed to show.
Is it enough to say what I just said? I feel like I need more...
 
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Well, so now you need to pick what your \delta is, right? So, |y-b| = \sqrt{(y-b)^2} &lt; \delta, so what should you pick your \delta to be?
 
You know what you want, so apply the definition to show what you want.

\forall ε&gt;0, \exists δ &gt; 0 \space | \space 0 &lt; |x-a|, |y-b| &lt; δ \Rightarrow |y - b| &lt; ε

Now if |y-b| < ε then we are already done. Now choose any arbitrary δ ≤ aε where a \in ℝ, 0 &lt; a &lt; 1 \space as to make the neighborhood around f(x,y) as small or large as we like and still satisfy the definition.

Really depends on how big you want your neighborhood to be right :) ?
 
Ah! I got it!

Thanks to all of you :)
One less problem left in the world.
 

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