Epsilon Delta Limits: Finding \delta

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The discussion revolves around the concept of epsilon-delta limits in calculus, specifically focusing on determining the value of delta (\(\delta\)) that ensures the function \(f(x)\) remains within a certain range of 5 when \(x\) is close to 2.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the distance from \(x=2\) and the condition that \(f(x)\) stays within 0.1 of 5. There is confusion about how to apply the given conditions to find \(\delta\). Some participants question the relevance of the function's behavior outside the specified range.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts to understand the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the conditions for \(x\) and the implications for \(\delta\). However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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Participants express frustration with the instructional materials available to them, indicating a lack of clarity in the presentation of the topic. There is also mention of the need to connect the problem to the broader concept of limits.

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Homework Statement


Suppose [itex]|f(x)-5|<0.1[/itex] when 0<x<5.
Find all values [itex]\delta>0[/itex] such that [itex]|f(x)-5|<0.1[/itex] whenever [itex]0<|x-2|<\delta[/itex]


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The Attempt at a Solution


I know that [tex]0<|x-2|<\delta[/tex]
[tex]2-\delta<x<2+\delta[/tex]
[tex]\delta=2[/tex]
but how does this part of the equation help me find delta?
[tex]|f(x)-5|<0.1[/tex]
[tex]4.9<f(x)<5.1[/tex]

I don't undestand it's use in this problem, if the other part gave me [itex]\delta=2[/itex]
 
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Try translating the problem into plain English, then it will be something like:
How far can I move from x=2 so that my function won't be too far from 5, while 0.1 is already too far...=)

BTW, how is this related to limits? [here you need to find appropriate [itex]\delta[/itex]]
 
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jrjack said:

Homework Statement


Suppose [itex]|f(x)-5|<0.1[/itex] when 0<x<5.
Find all values [itex]\delta>0[/itex] such that [itex]|f(x)-5|<0.1[/itex] whenever [itex]0<|x-2|<\delta[/itex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I know that [tex]0<|x-2|<\delta[/tex]
[tex]2-\delta<x<2+\delta[/tex]
[tex]\delta=2[/tex]
but how does this part of the equation help me find delta?
[tex]|f(x)-5|<0.1[/tex]
[tex]4.9<f(x)<5.1[/tex]
You don't need this at all. You are given that [itex]|f(x)- 5|< 0.1[/itex] if 0< x< 5 and you want "|f(x)- 5|< 0.1 if [itex]2-\delta< x< 2+ \delta[/itex]" so the "f" part is the same in both hypothesis and conclusion. Focus on the other part

I don't undestand it's use in this problem, if the other part gave me [itex]\delta=2[/itex]

Ignore f completely. What value of [itex]\delta[/itex] will guarantee that if [itex]2-\delta< x< 2+ \delta[/itex] then [itex]0< x< 5[/itex]?
 
Thanks, I have been watching the Kahn Academey and you tube videos and I'm starting to grasp this. I take this course on-line through a community college and the instructors lesson was a power point slide with no sound...it was lacking a lot of description and any explanation.

The videos, on the other hand, were very helpful, so is advice on here, Thanks.
 

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