Equation of plane (or maybe its a line ) Linear Algebra

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation that describes all points P(x, y, z) equidistant from a point F(0, 0, 4) and the plane z = 0. The subject area is linear algebra, specifically focusing on geometric representations and distance calculations in three-dimensional space.

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  • Participants discuss the initial steps of determining the distance from point F to the plane and how to express the plane's equation in the standard form ax + by + cz + d = 0. There are questions about the interpretation of the problem and the necessary calculations to equate distances.

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Some participants have provided guidance on visualizing the problem and suggested equating the distances from the point and the plane. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the derived equation, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the initial problem setup.

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Participants mention that they have sought help from a tutoring center but found the assistance lacking, which adds to the context of their inquiry. There is also a reference to the need for clarity on the geometric interpretation of the derived equation.

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The question word for word :

"Write the equation satisfied by all of the points P(x, y, z) that are at the same distance from the point F(0, 0, 4) and the plane z = 0."

I figured I could maybe start by finding the distance between point F and the plane z = 0 but I can't figure out how to represent z=0 as an ax + by + cz + d = 0 equation

I vaguely understand the underlying concepts but I can't quite figure out what the question is asking me to do or how to go about it. I took this question into my community college's tutoring department and even they couldn't figure it out, so any help is greatly appreciated :)
 
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fattycakez said:
The question word for word :

"Write the equation satisfied by all of the points P(x, y, z) that are at the same distance from the point F(0, 0, 4) and the plane z = 0."

I figured I could maybe start by finding the distance between point F and the plane z = 0

What do you need that for? Draw a picture, it's trivial.

but I can't figure out how to represent z=0 as an ax + by + cz + d = 0 equation

Try a = b= d = 0 and c = ?
I vaguely understand the underlying concepts but I can't quite figure out what the question is asking me to do or how to go about it. I took this question into my community college's tutoring department and even they couldn't figure it out, so any help is greatly appreciated :)

Do you understand distance formulas? Set the required two distances equal.
 
fattycakez said:
The question word for word :

"Write the equation satisfied by all of the points P(x, y, z) that are at the same distance from the point F(0, 0, 4) and the plane z = 0."

I figured I could maybe start by finding the distance between point F and the plane z = 0 but I can't figure out how to represent z=0 as an ax + by + cz + d = 0 equation

I vaguely understand the underlying concepts but I can't quite figure out what the question is asking me to do or how to go about it. I took this question into my community college's tutoring department and even they couldn't figure it out, so any help is greatly appreciated :)

z=0 does have the form ax + by + cz + d = 0. It's a=0, b=0, c=1 and d=0. But you really don't even need that. z=0 is the x-y plane. How far is (x,y,z) from the x-y plane? Just visualize it. Then how far is (x,y,z) from (0,0,4)? Equate the two.
 
Dick said:
z=0 does have the form ax + by + cz + d = 0. It's a=0, b=0, c=1 and d=0. But you really don't even need that. z=0 is the x-y plane. How far is (x,y,z) from the x-y plane? Just visualize it. Then how far is (x,y,z) from (0,0,4)? Equate the two.

(x,y,z) is z distance from the x-y plane? And the distance from (x,y,z) to (0,0,4) is sqrt(x^2 + y^2 + (4 - z)^2)?
 
I equated the two and got : x^2 + y^2 - 8z + 16 = 0
Does that look correct?
Thanks for the fast replies :)
 
fattycakez said:
I equated the two and got : x^2 + y^2 - 8z + 16 = 0

That is correct. Solve it for z and see if you recognize it. What kind of surface is it? Then take it to your community college tutors and ask them to explain why they couldn't help you with it.
 
Sweet, it looks like a fat 3-d parabola!
Thank you both for your help, I'll let my cc know that strangers on the internet were faster and infinitely more helpful than their tutoring center.
 
Yep. It's called a paraboloid. If you think back you may remember that in 2d a parabola was defined as the locus of points equidistant from the focus (a point) and the directrix (a line). Same idea.
 

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